Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([2a02:16a8:dc51::56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1fvNT9-0007pd-Rg for buildfarm-members@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 13:58:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1fvNT7-0008EW-Bt for buildfarm-members@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 13:58:41 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1fvNT6-0008DP-Vs for buildfarm-members@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 13:58:41 +0000 Received: from mail-pl1-x631.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::631]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1fvNT3-0000aC-8F for buildfarm-members@postgresql.org; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 13:58:40 +0000 Received: by mail-pl1-x631.google.com with SMTP id b12-v6so3883029plr.8 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 06:58:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=leadboat.com; s=google; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=zLb99/woHYeH4KT3GO3yAl10C94RGrgM2QVgYepZjcM=; b=SZUp/P3ZEyXWzEqNvC27Uq4umL/AaaXLrgQv16lQLUT3uiqLfpEBxg+UZVZEyhWLNC 8KtDWMclizATTM2wIauBfDAA+0XOjvPabZIiQWnYuCypCRBOfEwrnVd0X7RFmqHlmQoL mI3tr5VH19T+f86yApeWUJxeqFBQqGFLxTuEE= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=zLb99/woHYeH4KT3GO3yAl10C94RGrgM2QVgYepZjcM=; b=eLzf+Osm11HEcr0P2l1DXnLg33OGklf20b3QP1vebYb2WMcVtUaj1krJ7gYb3TPr7x bgzlqglYLnyrUn2pBmVnlSU3Ux0gVuO+7AMzHNljDrVHjT60WEwBlSVyiFH8Ibq/RtaE tvK37JTJBEvV+exCT8bDZy7+nKetdEn4SLZNpQ0Q1OKoVMFih9TFmzsukBfY+sngCeub QpQaVMIpSSeP7styiDaZUvY9cocQHbyEWpY8iJmyqMq00xaY6PKsr65xJ+I3+ToISeRj dDI9t6VXsMugC5jKzveHFTQ0HCkrg3dTSCUgo+t1IUNiFGdXH6UfCCLydhDGc7lDExTv MY9Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51BvU0qN6JJohlWJ05Zl304dAgCgrTqEY8DFYFJkBIjoKwb5/ZLX PMKatgjHqSgVOlh3V2iM/N58Hw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdasrHElVz9OH9mRcu8md9cZOaCOzD4Jka1ILalXFmAhCg+hBTFI7+y8hOadKiSNfWnUBIaqQQ== X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:5a4e:: with SMTP id f14-v6mr4962141plm.311.1535637514868; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 06:58:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfd.leadboat.com (c-73-158-248-138.hsd1.ca.comcast.net. [73.158.248.138]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u17-v6sm12386940pfa.176.2018.08.30.06.58.33 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 30 Aug 2018 06:58:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 06:58:31 -0700 From: Noah Misch To: Dave Page Cc: Tom Lane , Andrew Dunstan , buildfarm-members@postgresql.org Subject: Re: many animals are running old clients Message-ID: <20180830135831.GA1486647@rfd.leadboat.com> References: <144264ec-fd45-80eb-7642-109f920286b9@2ndQuadrant.com> <730c3887-5dd9-7149-4062-75ddc48388c0@2ndQuadrant.com> <25938.1535581043@sss.pgh.pa.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 11:32:30AM +0100, Dave Page wrote: > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 11:17 PM, Tom Lane wrote: > > > Andrew Dunstan writes: > > > On 08/29/2018 10:35 AM, Dave Page wrote: > > >> It's very far from a 5 minute job on ancient Solaris boxes :-( > > > > > Please let me know when issues like this arise. > > > > One thing of the same ilk is that a few months ago I had to give up on > > using https reporting on gaur/pademelon, and switch back to http. > > I don't think that was your fault, because it was not associated with a > > buildfarm client upgrade. It appeared to me that the pginfra folk had > > changed something to require newer TLS versions in https connections to > > the buildfarm server. Like Dave, I spent a fair while trying to install > > new-enough Perl modules to fix that, without a lot of success: newer > > Perl code doesn't compile on that platform. > > > > It's debatable of course how much anyone cares about buildfarm animals > > that are this old. I've already shut down pademelon since its compiler > > never heard of C99, and I don't see much point in running it on just > > the back branches. > > > > Right - I do wonder that about this machine (whether it's worth supporting, > not whether its compiler supports C99). Here's what we're talking about: > > -bash-3.00$ cat /etc/release > Solaris 10 11/06 s10s_u3wos_10 SPARC > Copyright 2006 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All Rights Reserved. > Use is subject to license terms. > Assembled 14 November 2006 The lack of any other Solaris animal makes it more valuable than its age alone would imply.