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* please update description of grison @ 2025-03-07 07:59 Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Peter Eisentraut @ 2025-03-07 07:59 UTC (permalink / raw) To: [email protected]; [email protected] I don't know which side is responsible for editing the system descriptions, so this is either to the animal owner or to the admins: The description of grison is currently: Raspbian GNU/Linux 7.8 gcc 4.6.3 ARMv7 (which is notable because it would be a gcc older than lapwing) but the actual compiler version is configure: using compiler=gcc (Raspbian 12.2.0-14+rpi1) 12.2.0 (which also throws in doubt whether the "7.8" is correct, but I'm not certain how these version numbers relate). Please fix this to reflect reality. ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: please update description of grison @ 2025-03-07 08:02 Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]> parent: Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Stefan Kaltenbrunner @ 2025-03-07 08:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>; [email protected]; +Cc: [email protected] There is an actual set of scripts (update_personality.pl and setnotes.pl) available as part of the buildfarm toolkit to maintain metadata. Stefan On 07.03.25 08:59, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > I don't know which side is responsible for editing the system > descriptions, so this is either to the animal owner or to the admins: > > The description of grison is currently: > > Raspbian GNU/Linux 7.8 gcc 4.6.3 ARMv7 > > (which is notable because it would be a gcc older than lapwing) > > but the actual compiler version is > > configure: using compiler=gcc (Raspbian 12.2.0-14+rpi1) 12.2.0 > > (which also throws in doubt whether the "7.8" is correct, but I'm not > certain how these version numbers relate). > > Please fix this to reflect reality. > > > > ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: please update description of grison @ 2025-03-07 08:42 Mikael Kjellström <[email protected]> parent: Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Mikael Kjellström @ 2025-03-07 08:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]>; Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>; [email protected]; +Cc: [email protected] Hi, Yes, I've used update_personality.pl in the past but then the System-field that is displayed in buildfarm web was looking really weird. It's kind of just appended the new info to the field instead of replacing it with the new info. Is that fixed? I think there was some process where someone went and cleaned it up manually after a while as I can't see that when I look now. But I can for sure update all my animals with the correct info as there are others that aren't up to date also. /Mikael On 2025-03-07 09:02, Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote: > There is an actual set of scripts (update_personality.pl and > setnotes.pl) available as part of the buildfarm toolkit to maintain > metadata. > > > Stefan > > > On 07.03.25 08:59, Peter Eisentraut wrote: >> I don't know which side is responsible for editing the system >> descriptions, so this is either to the animal owner or to the admins: >> >> The description of grison is currently: >> >> Raspbian GNU/Linux 7.8 gcc 4.6.3 ARMv7 >> >> (which is notable because it would be a gcc older than lapwing) >> >> but the actual compiler version is >> >> configure: using compiler=gcc (Raspbian 12.2.0-14+rpi1) 12.2.0 >> >> (which also throws in doubt whether the "7.8" is correct, but I'm not >> certain how these version numbers relate). >> >> Please fix this to reflect reality. >> >> >> >> > > > ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: please update description of grison @ 2025-03-07 08:53 Mikael Kjellström <[email protected]> parent: Mikael Kjellström <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Mikael Kjellström @ 2025-03-07 08:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]>; Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>; [email protected]; +Cc: [email protected] Hi again, For example look at: morepork = OpenBSD OpenBSD 6.9 clang clang 10.0.1 x64 It should say: morepork = OpenBSD 6.9 clang 10.0.1 x64 i used update_personality.pl to change that once (several years ago) and that is how it displays after sending in: $ update_personality.pl --os-version="OpenBSD 6.9" --compiler-version="clang 10.0.1 x64" is that how it is suppose to work / look? Same with those below after using update_personality.pl: sidewinder = NetBSD NetBSD 9.2 gcc clang 12.0.1 x86_64 loach = FreeBSD FreeBSD 12.2 clang clang 10.0.1 x86_64 conchuela = DragonFly BSD DragonFly BSD 6.2.2 gcc gcc 8.3 x86_64 /Mikael On 2025-03-07 09:42, Mikael Kjellström wrote: > Hi, > > Yes, I've used update_personality.pl in the past but then the > System-field that is displayed in buildfarm web was looking really weird. > > It's kind of just appended the new info to the field instead of > replacing it with the new info. Is that fixed? > > I think there was some process where someone went and cleaned it up > manually after a while as I can't see that when I look now. > > But I can for sure update all my animals with the correct info as > there are others that aren't up to date also. > > /Mikael > > > On 2025-03-07 09:02, Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote: >> There is an actual set of scripts (update_personality.pl and >> setnotes.pl) available as part of the buildfarm toolkit to maintain >> metadata. >> >> >> Stefan >> >> >> On 07.03.25 08:59, Peter Eisentraut wrote: >>> I don't know which side is responsible for editing the system >>> descriptions, so this is either to the animal owner or to the admins: >>> >>> The description of grison is currently: >>> >>> Raspbian GNU/Linux 7.8 gcc 4.6.3 ARMv7 >>> >>> (which is notable because it would be a gcc older than lapwing) >>> >>> but the actual compiler version is >>> >>> configure: using compiler=gcc (Raspbian 12.2.0-14+rpi1) 12.2.0 >>> >>> (which also throws in doubt whether the "7.8" is correct, but I'm >>> not certain how these version numbers relate). >>> >>> Please fix this to reflect reality. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: please update description of grison @ 2025-03-07 09:02 Álvaro Herrera <[email protected]> parent: Mikael Kjellström <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Álvaro Herrera @ 2025-03-07 09:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Mikael Kjellström <[email protected]>; +Cc: Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]>; Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>; [email protected]; [email protected] Hello On 2025-Mar-07, Mikael Kjellström wrote: > For example look at: > > morepork = OpenBSD OpenBSD 6.9 clang clang 10.0.1 x64 > > It should say: > > morepork = OpenBSD 6.9 clang 10.0.1 x64 > > i used update_personality.pl to change that once (several years ago) and > that is how it displays after sending in: > > $ update_personality.pl --os-version="OpenBSD 6.9" --compiler-version="clang > 10.0.1 x64" You have to give only the version *number*, not the operating system/compiler names. The fact that the compiler itself cannot be changed (say from gcc to clang, which you appear to be trying to do for sidewinder) appears to be on purpose. I suppose you should submit a new request and abandon the old animal name, if you wanted to make such a conversion. (I don't necessarily agree with this view of things, but it's how it is at present.) Thanks for keeping these animals running, -- Álvaro Herrera PostgreSQL Developer — https://www.EnterpriseDB.com/ ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: please update description of grison @ 2025-03-07 09:07 Mikael Kjellström <[email protected]> parent: Álvaro Herrera <[email protected]> 1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Mikael Kjellström @ 2025-03-07 09:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Álvaro Herrera <[email protected]>; +Cc: Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]>; Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>; [email protected]; [email protected] On 2025-03-07 10:02, Álvaro Herrera wrote: > Hello > > On 2025-Mar-07, Mikael Kjellström wrote: > >> For example look at: >> >> morepork = OpenBSD OpenBSD 6.9 clang clang 10.0.1 x64 >> >> It should say: >> >> morepork = OpenBSD 6.9 clang 10.0.1 x64 >> >> i used update_personality.pl to change that once (several years ago) and >> that is how it displays after sending in: >> >> $ update_personality.pl --os-version="OpenBSD 6.9" --compiler-version="clang >> 10.0.1 x64" > You have to give only the version *number*, not the operating > system/compiler names. > > The fact that the compiler itself cannot be changed (say from gcc to > clang, which you appear to be trying to do for sidewinder) appears to be > on purpose. I suppose you should submit a new request and abandon the > old animal name, if you wanted to make such a conversion. (I don't > necessarily agree with this view of things, but it's how it is at > present.) Aha! So there is where I went wrong. So for my grison update I should send in: ./update_personality.pl --os-version="6.9" --compiler-version="12.2.0" is that correct? > Thanks for keeping these animals running, No problem. /Mikael ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: please update description of grison @ 2025-03-07 09:09 Mikael Kjellström <[email protected]> parent: Mikael Kjellström <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Mikael Kjellström @ 2025-03-07 09:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Álvaro Herrera <[email protected]>; +Cc: Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]>; Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>; [email protected]; [email protected] Hi Sorry should be: ./update_personality.pl --os-version="12" --compiler-version="12.2.0" as the os is: Raspbian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) and compiler is: $ gcc --version gcc (Raspbian 12.2.0-14+rpi1) 12.2.0 right? /Mikael On 2025-03-07 10:07, Mikael Kjellström wrote: > > On 2025-03-07 10:02, Álvaro Herrera wrote: >> Hello >> >> On 2025-Mar-07, Mikael Kjellström wrote: >> >>> For example look at: >>> >>> morepork = OpenBSD OpenBSD 6.9 clang clang 10.0.1 x64 >>> >>> It should say: >>> >>> morepork = OpenBSD 6.9 clang 10.0.1 x64 >>> >>> i used update_personality.pl to change that once (several years ago) >>> and >>> that is how it displays after sending in: >>> >>> $ update_personality.pl --os-version="OpenBSD 6.9" >>> --compiler-version="clang >>> 10.0.1 x64" >> You have to give only the version *number*, not the operating >> system/compiler names. >> >> The fact that the compiler itself cannot be changed (say from gcc to >> clang, which you appear to be trying to do for sidewinder) appears to be >> on purpose. I suppose you should submit a new request and abandon the >> old animal name, if you wanted to make such a conversion. (I don't >> necessarily agree with this view of things, but it's how it is at >> present.) > > Aha! So there is where I went wrong. > > So for my grison update I should send in: > > ./update_personality.pl --os-version="6.9" --compiler-version="12.2.0" > > is that correct? > >> Thanks for keeping these animals running, > > No problem. > > /Mikael > > > ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: please update description of grison @ 2025-03-07 09:18 Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]> parent: Álvaro Herrera <[email protected]> 1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Stefan Kaltenbrunner @ 2025-03-07 09:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Álvaro Herrera <[email protected]>; Mikael Kjellström <[email protected]>; +Cc: Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>; [email protected]; [email protected] On 07.03.25 10:02, Álvaro Herrera wrote: > Hello > > On 2025-Mar-07, Mikael Kjellström wrote: > >> For example look at: >> >> morepork = OpenBSD OpenBSD 6.9 clang clang 10.0.1 x64 >> >> It should say: >> >> morepork = OpenBSD 6.9 clang 10.0.1 x64 >> >> i used update_personality.pl to change that once (several years ago) and >> that is how it displays after sending in: >> >> $ update_personality.pl --os-version="OpenBSD 6.9" --compiler-version="clang >> 10.0.1 x64" > > You have to give only the version *number*, not the operating > system/compiler names. > > The fact that the compiler itself cannot be changed (say from gcc to > clang, which you appear to be trying to do for sidewinder) appears to be > on purpose. I suppose you should submit a new request and abandon the > old animal name, if you wanted to make such a conversion. (I don't > necessarily agree with this view of things, but it's how it is at > present.) yeah, I think this whole area could do with some rethinking - it is _very_ common for people upgrading operating systems or even running operating systems that are doing a continous upgrade thing. Requiring those to re-register for no real purpose seems to be the wrong way - ideally I would expect the buildfarm itself to update the OS and compiler version - what we have now is basically always outdated and wrong. Stefan ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: please update description of grison @ 2025-03-07 10:21 Álvaro Herrera <[email protected]> parent: Mikael Kjellström <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Álvaro Herrera @ 2025-03-07 10:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Mikael Kjellström <[email protected]>; +Cc: Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]>; Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] On 2025-Mar-07, Mikael Kjellström wrote: > Sorry should be: > > ./update_personality.pl --os-version="12" --compiler-version="12.2.0" > as the os is: > Raspbian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) > and compiler is: > $ gcc --version > gcc (Raspbian 12.2.0-14+rpi1) 12.2.0 > right? Looks correct to me. I'm also CCing Filipe Rosset here, because I think his animal versions could do with some retouching. (The strings there are a bit annoying, because they are so wide that they make the whole status dashboard table wider without providing any additional useful information. -- Álvaro Herrera 48°01'N 7°57'E — https://www.EnterpriseDB.com/ "Java is clearly an example of money oriented programming" (A. Stepanov) ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: please update description of grison @ 2025-03-07 16:36 Tom Lane <[email protected]> parent: Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Tom Lane @ 2025-03-07 16:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]>; +Cc: Álvaro Herrera <[email protected]>; Mikael Kjellström <[email protected]>; Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>; [email protected]; [email protected] Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[email protected]> writes: > On 07.03.25 10:02, Álvaro Herrera wrote: >> The fact that the compiler itself cannot be changed (say from gcc to >> clang, which you appear to be trying to do for sidewinder) appears to be >> on purpose. I suppose you should submit a new request and abandon the >> old animal name, if you wanted to make such a conversion. (I don't >> necessarily agree with this view of things, but it's how it is at >> present.) > yeah, I think this whole area could do with some rethinking - it is > _very_ common for people upgrading operating systems or even running > operating systems that are doing a continous upgrade thing. The idea is that switching to a whole new OS or compiler really does result in a different animal, which should have a different name to reduce confusion. (I didn't make this decision, but it seems reasonable to me.) Upgrades are fine, but those should only be moving the version numbers. > ... ideally I would expect the buildfarm itself to update the OS and > compiler version - what we have now is basically always outdated and wrong. Yeah, ideally we would not bother with the manual labeling of versions. I know how to scrape compiler versions out of the build logs, and I always do that when I am interested in compiler versions, rather than trusting the labels. But it's much harder to identify OS version from the build logs ... regards, tom lane ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 10+ messages in thread
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