Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([2a02:16a8:dc51::56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1fv4zT-0001yB-1y for buildfarm-members@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 18:14:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1fv4zR-000347-OZ for buildfarm-members@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 18:14:49 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1fv4zR-000340-GG for buildfarm-members@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 18:14:49 +0000 Received: from mail-qk0-x242.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c09::242]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1fv4zN-0006P4-GT for buildfarm-members@postgresql.org; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 18:14:48 +0000 Received: by mail-qk0-x242.google.com with SMTP id 89-v6so4007770qkp.2 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 11:14:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=2ndquadrant-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=from:subject:to:cc:references:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=FC8kDhAqoMwJbrbpCJy7ytQhioJw4vphKExjOBi/n/8=; b=EvTjKKwgWbURKHV8celD2ZeE8S/+fwLZdvnHTTQTjqM4Cj5I+VWejQ5A/L67Jd3DqM N53Yr9CaNpqYDjBavHc/kqwQ1WyRvPToulbSpzsPGoDCNf1YXmk1mjQrcU/tefweUSHt NW+gFULTTtVJvQ4/ewy2nZZbm3AAOJZTeYeF2+8KSnSTqLuakhXUVsLhBB2NAY3AhxzS gkQYi0ViJs8YBRClJXBpciIkn7MyMOX6oqKg0MtRptP64mrPxfTohiQwjj/vjM6B68Lo Rv5f/SWR7z6pI/TvhD9+BfqT3m0b9IMFoXx6tzt2QsU9DKPjSws2yVje4LlVQD9KwkFR AC3g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:subject:to:cc:references:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=FC8kDhAqoMwJbrbpCJy7ytQhioJw4vphKExjOBi/n/8=; b=uEJyW7h31dFdk35OkOBhpiYndtZzem4HVPHkwwg9cPcQ8ycxKotahCNPUTK2ig/IyQ fsnX0o8ygkbk4MjjVxSphYXqP+HaNFc7vmjgW5gPpmIZUA2cSIRwkC6TqU2mWkDKEbsl VT1nKkKiQfxBmWtFEIJGrJWSl82RLmqzadjckfRC6c6mvA/ntpkPC2o77X+OuY2NcmDu XP3R4kEXS1YiHGfmKY4RR/kOfvf73e5SEO6BZEEYbVq44J05uLgYQZ/Uonhgn9y994a1 YIXYDQxYhl+9z3YX7g/KK+WSJyGEh6N8g961IaR02q4afNyWgSniO5WzoMoqP6pUYzKs 7ICw== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51BztwejIQ21G5fqwMTRwkGTrbOB0+uyCRtfMHfT9Ik2q8deFX2I Loi2khTbjtLSXOR+GinT0hhhb3PrZXqQhJpK2MZiu8D7f414fOZGNteh3DBDdiqJiHdj6X353pj IuZ3BFWyLUJLe/N9qUDq+FVqOBF4rQz1eCGpk8FviKTauQXK461MldnNJGtftCuFqbmPdQyAekC iK4ReYbNG8lc5m95Rogg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdaAVKo0cFXbRrqEyjZLoYmCP3AAHWHw7MlLCo7Q9I79MGfRyA1+RbvMZwN98eyi5Qhadwg5cg== X-Received: by 2002:a37:1802:: with SMTP id j2-v6mr7368992qkh.225.1535566483555; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 11:14:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.10.146] ([98.122.175.38]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m5-v6sm3068113qkh.30.2018.08.29.11.14.42 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 29 Aug 2018 11:14:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Dunstan X-Google-Original-From: Andrew Dunstan Subject: Re: many animals are running old clients To: Dave Page Cc: buildfarm-members@postgresql.org References: <144264ec-fd45-80eb-7642-109f920286b9@2ndQuadrant.com> Message-ID: <730c3887-5dd9-7149-4062-75ddc48388c0@2ndQuadrant.com> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 14:14:42 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-MW List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk On 08/29/2018 10:35 AM, Dave Page wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 10:27 PM, Andrew Dunstan > > wrote: > > > Animal owners, > > > The majority of buildfarm animals are not on the latest client > code release. Version 8 was released more than 3 months ago. There > are 26 animals on release 7 and 43 on even older releases, in one > case on a release going back 4 years. See below for the lists of > delinquents. > > > If this situation doesn't improve I'm going to have to reinstitute > the server filters which will reject very old clients. > > > I do my best to keep things backwards compatible, so that usually > an upgrade is simply a matter of unpacking the release and you're > done. I don't think asking people to do that once every few months > is terribly onerous. It's a five minute job. > > > It's very far from a 5 minute job on ancient Solaris boxes :-( > > In my case, I've spent an hour or more trying to get Digest::SHA to > install, and have failed miserably as it fails to compile for me with > both Sun Studio and GCC. In the case of Sun Studio, CPAN seems > insistent on trying to use the compiler in a way that makes it react > like the crippled default compiler on the system, and it ignores > variables like CC, and aliases and so-on, and insists on trying to run > "cc" regardless. I'm going to have to give up for now. > > eep! Please let me know when issues like this arise. Note BTW that we switched from Digest::SHA1 to Digest::SHA back in 2013, because it's more commonly available, and I never heard of a problem with that until now, AFAIR. Assuming you have Digest::SHA1 available, I could probably save you all this grief by trying to use one and then the other. More generally, if people have difficulties I try to work out a way around them. So please do sing out when that happens. cheers andrew -- Andrew Dunstan https://www.2ndQuadrant.com PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services