Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([2a02:16a8:dc51::56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1fv1ZY-0007OB-Rl for buildfarm-members@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 14:35:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1fv1ZW-0005Lt-LF for buildfarm-members@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 14:35:50 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:1501:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1fv1ZW-0005Lm-3h for buildfarm-members@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 14:35:50 +0000 Received: from mail-wm0-x234.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c09::234]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1fv1ZO-0006kX-Ux for buildfarm-members@postgresql.org; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 14:35:48 +0000 Received: by mail-wm0-x234.google.com with SMTP id b19-v6so5542471wme.3 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 07:35:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pgadmin-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=/flGSwTmENNQJ5DAenFOPHNIh8nvvKkKb43ltP8B5O4=; b=pmcgtAK/mZTOh+jR0f5ATYDtfdVFxynodoLQwhvBQpcrqWtPGYnp/U5BXrThzsyIiG WbiPLDLpoXG+wDd0w6/PAujja1vUMI7sN2arz1C4cJmVw3AsEDbWs9h+VKL/PfUIiZAc OUYffVbf7pdH6DB4KdraTFmEH7p0qJsA6mLqJW1J4f+xmh/ZtQ5nNav6BqATpxTXnKER Dg//xeElJZqI6rL34ySQNUtCZobapluDpkGwrMNqqNe+oTee35ZBhM1gIMGBaVtTSVwC q7ZCblBVW3VpySzvnBc50wZV0YKDY5UNnZlxeAAoFTbfisCtT/GHXvoilWrMm063+nju AvEQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=/flGSwTmENNQJ5DAenFOPHNIh8nvvKkKb43ltP8B5O4=; b=VqWbixyo45BnN1swk7OS4+PQcQQdXkKcDTcl4XtOVjQ/VS2t61Z1XHaFVqftKDpYxK IMu7VtBBC+eDg86ByjCGVo0kjRg3lpuQ7Xs+y0yS0xjK3jRE0CMtGWA6q4g5KbM2O3jA 5HxVubeJ5EqHHzMXKwoCAcXC5DSL0YZXOP9SoWxSkix7rT6y0qe+wDP7qoO9n929nGbL eHhy9PqeBDLn/jhXfwWNugRkkOcpMFv8bskBv/0ElLdC4sOPpeEaBQVMTbbnPgQTw7RB RmATih7SFTvMTFfMkWvGoOg0mfA9Eov0AVdlOCeVUbtPMxNxHkphJUBOqJ8q1PGBnJgQ uQ3g== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51DJ94iAZvYDsBer14pQbzcNfxVSrG3GQIfIwzk356Si8LYEmZR+ xnXnVBCm9WHyoM9zeCjdyKAs5Y9e1pxljomrdHjcSw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdYah+iWOOVhfY8FlgnzrSrQUxycDVNIVyh9Ll846O9srjN6cFHc0iJ5wBdJBJq92n3eaWz2ZsUEO8+qli67dS0= X-Received: by 2002:a1c:98a:: with SMTP id 132-v6mr4418386wmj.86.1535553341281; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 07:35:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a1c:89d1:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 07:35:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <144264ec-fd45-80eb-7642-109f920286b9@2ndQuadrant.com> References: <144264ec-fd45-80eb-7642-109f920286b9@2ndQuadrant.com> From: Dave Page Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 15:35:40 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: many animals are running old clients To: Andrew Dunstan Cc: buildfarm-members@postgresql.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000070f41a057493df34" List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk --00000000000070f41a057493df34 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 10:27 PM, Andrew Dunstan < andrew.dunstan@2ndquadrant.com> wrote: > > Animal owners, > > > The majority of buildfarm animals are not on the latest client code > release. Version 8 was released more than 3 months ago. There are 26 > animals on release 7 and 43 on even older releases, in one case on a > release going back 4 years. See below for the lists of delinquents. > > > If this situation doesn't improve I'm going to have to reinstitute the > server filters which will reject very old clients. > > > I do my best to keep things backwards compatible, so that usually an > upgrade is simply a matter of unpacking the release and you're done. I > don't think asking people to do that once every few months is terribly > onerous. It's a five minute job. > It's very far from a 5 minute job on ancient Solaris boxes :-( In my case, I've spent an hour or more trying to get Digest::SHA to install, and have failed miserably as it fails to compile for me with both Sun Studio and GCC. In the case of Sun Studio, CPAN seems insistent on trying to use the compiler in a way that makes it react like the crippled default compiler on the system, and it ignores variables like CC, and aliases and so-on, and insists on trying to run "cc" regardless. I'm going to have to give up for now. -- Dave Page Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com Twitter: @pgsnake EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company --00000000000070f41a057493df34 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 10:27 PM, Andrew Dunstan <= andrew.= dunstan@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:

Animal owners,


The majority of buildfarm animals are not on the latest client code release= . Version 8 was released more than 3 months ago. There are 26 animals on re= lease 7 and 43 on even older releases, in one case on a release going back = 4 years. See below for the lists of delinquents.


If this situation doesn't improve I'm going to have to reinstitute = the server filters which will reject very old clients.


I do my best to keep things backwards compatible, so that usually an upgrad= e is simply a matter of unpacking the release and you're done. I don= 9;t think asking people to do that once every few months is terribly onerou= s. It's a five minute job.

It's= very far from a 5 minute job on ancient Solaris boxes :-(

In my case, I've spent an hour or more trying to get Digest::S= HA to install, and have failed miserably as it fails to compile for me with= both Sun Studio and GCC. In the case of Sun Studio, CPAN seems insistent o= n trying to use the compiler in a way that makes it react like the crippled= default compiler on the system, and it ignores variables like CC, and alia= ses and so-on, and insists on trying to run "cc" regardless. I= 9;m going to have to give up for now.=C2=A0=C2=A0

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D= ave Page
Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
Twitter: @pgsnake

EnterpriseDB U= K: http://www.ent= erprisedb.com
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