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We don't actually make much use of the vast > majority of Redmine's features right now - and being able to use > Github's system will allow us to follow the workflows that most > developers expect these days, thus making it easier to allow new > contributors to get started. I'm sure using GitHub's system has advantages. All I'm saying is it's nowhere near mature enough to replace a Redmine tracker like pgAdmin's. Notice that I specified *most* basic, by which I mostly mean: * There is no solution tracking. * There is no importance tracking, or any kind of prioritization. It is basically (pun intended) worthless for non-trivial projects. > [...] > > >> >> On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 9:20 AM Philippe Cloutier >> wrote: >> >> Greetings, >> After starting to use pgAdmin a couple years ago and >> struggling to track one of its issues, I figured out that its >> issue tracker was not publicly visible (an account is >> required to display tickets). I reported that meta-issue in >> report #5042. >> >> The ticket's Status field was later set to Rejected. In >> August, I asked in that ticket if there was a reason for that. >> >> In September, as there had been no answer, I specifically >> asked Dave Page, who is responsible for the field's change, >> if he could explain it. Unfortunately, more than a month >> later, that question remains unanswered, as can be seen in >> the following screenshot: [...] >> >> I am therefore resorting to this forum to request help from >> the pgAdmin community. Can someone either solve that or at >> least help elucidate? A quick look indicates that Mr Page >> still contributes to pgAdmin. >> >> Thanks in advance >> >> -- >> Philippe Cloutier >> http://www.philippecloutier.com >> >> >> >> -- >> Dave Page >> Blog: https://pgsnake.blogspot.com >> Twitter: @pgsnake >> >> EDB: https://www.enterprisedb.com >> > -- > Philippe Cloutier > http://www.philippecloutier.com > > > > -- > Dave Page > Blog: https://pgsnake.blogspot.com > Twitter: @pgsnake > > EDB: https://www.enterprisedb.com > -- Philippe Cloutier http://www.philippecloutier.com --------------M00bvMCI2sQdGhqxALbBAx0s Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Hi,

Le 2021-11-10 à 04:06, Dave Page a écrit :
Hi

On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 11:23 PM Philippe Cloutier <chealer@gmail.com> wrote:

We are considering a move to Github issues, but that's a huge and complex task.


I would recommend against moving to GitHub's ITS engine, which is most basic.

Basic is good :-). We don't actually make much use of the vast majority of Redmine's features right now - and being able to use Github's system will allow us to follow the workflows that most developers expect these days, thus making it easier to allow new contributors to get started.


I'm sure using GitHub's system has advantages. All I'm saying is it's nowhere near mature enough to replace a Redmine tracker like pgAdmin's. Notice that I specified *most* basic, by which I mostly mean:

  • There is no solution tracking.
  • There is no importance tracking, or any kind of prioritization.

It is basically (pun intended) worthless for non-trivial projects.


[...]

 



On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 9:20 AM Philippe Cloutier <chealer@gmail.com> wrote:

Greetings,
After starting to use pgAdmin a couple years ago and struggling to track one of its issues, I figured out that its issue tracker was not publicly visible (an account is required to display tickets). I reported that meta-issue in report #5042.

The ticket's Status field was later set to Rejected. In August, I asked in that ticket if there was a reason for that.

In September, as there had been no answer, I specifically asked Dave Page, who is responsible for the field's change, if he could explain it. Unfortunately, more than a month later, that question remains unanswered, as can be seen in the following screenshot: [...]

I am therefore resorting to this forum to request help from the pgAdmin community. Can someone either solve that or at least help elucidate? A quick look indicates that Mr Page still contributes to pgAdmin.

Thanks in advance

-- 
Philippe Cloutier
http://www.philippecloutier.com


--
Dave Page
Blog: https://pgsnake.blogspot.com
Twitter: @pgsnake

EDB: https://www.enterprisedb.com

-- 
Philippe Cloutier
http://www.philippecloutier.com


--
Dave Page
Blog: https://pgsnake.blogspot.com
Twitter: @pgsnake

EDB: https://www.enterprisedb.com

-- 
Philippe Cloutier
http://www.philippecloutier.com
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