Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l2gsa-0004GJ-MF for pgadmin-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 20:48:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l2gsZ-0006wc-Hg for pgadmin-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 20:48:31 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l2gWC-00073C-Gr; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 20:25:24 +0000 Received: from mail1.artsman.com ([66.119.165.121]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l2gW7-0003Ib-PN; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 20:25:23 +0000 Received: from dougs-mbp.shuswap (unknown [66.171.102.50]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail1.artsman.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BE2011E8B; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 12:25:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=artsman.com; s=default; t=1611260717; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=VaWvpZX6wuwLSIw7LhzKoAhu92VLsAYB5cc1Rv17rNk=; b=BHJ9LW+ME8+PM4m6janFsGg1haxzg7iXF3nbPohxIPDczpPa3G5nofEFcRnD8px4T5I6t6 XZByQjHF5ebSA09BLC97a3lkz2KvA5KRT8OEAwJFWcmNCAWdyFGZK8eZGnSowh67qtbxND zTNkpsl4kc7dPfJQbtfDf6JwlggKr44= From: Doug Easterbrook Message-Id: <46967344-702E-4628-82AD-20D9D144E323@artsman.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_1407BECD-CC89-46B2-A7DD-A3E5366CEF5C" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.4\)) Subject: Re: Testing required: pgAdmin 4 with new desktop runtime Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 12:25:17 -0800 In-Reply-To: Cc: pgadmin-hackers , pgAdmin Support To: Dave Page References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk --Apple-Mail=_1407BECD-CC89-46B2-A7DD-A3E5366CEF5C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I=E2=80=99cew got it installed on my mac. I=E2=80=99ll use it and see = what I notice. Doug Easterbrook Arts Management Systems Ltd. mailto:doug@artsman.com http://www.artsman.com Phone (403) 650-1978 > On January 21, 2021, at 7:55 AM, Dave Page wrote: >=20 > All, >=20 > As you know, when run in Desktop mode, pgAdmin 4 uses a server process = which runs all the time and opens a browser window to display the UI. = Very early versions used a Qt based runtime that integrated the browser = and server which gave a much more "normal" application feel, but = unfortunately we found that the Qt browser components had performance = issues. >=20 > We've been working on a new runtime (based on NWjs, similar to = Electron) to allow us to get rid of the separate server process, and I'm = please to offer builds for testing at: >=20 > https://developer.pgadmin.org/builds/nwjs-2021-01-21-1/ = >=20 > There you'll find an installer for 64 bit Windows, a DMG for macOS, = and RPM and DEB packages for Fedora 31, 32 & 33, RHEL/CentOS 7 & 8, = Debian 9, 10 & 11 and Ubuntu 18.04, 20.04 and 20.10. >=20 > These builds are based on development code currently in git that will = be released as v4.30 next week. This includes phase 1 of our Kerberos = support (for logging into pgAdmin, but *not* the database servers), and = the new ERD tool. This code is still going through QA and final = improvement, so please bear that in mind. >=20 > We're aiming to release v5.0 of pgAdmin 4 in late February, based on = the new runtime, so would appreciate as much help and feedback as we can = get prior to the release. >=20 > Whilst I'm writing, I'd also like to give an update on platform = support changes; >=20 > - As previously noted in release announcements, Windows 32 bit builds = are deprecated. v4.29 will be the last 32 bit Windows build supported. >=20 > - Canonical have dropped support for Ubuntu 19.10, and now removed all = of the packages repositories. We have therefore had to drop support for = it as well; the last supported version of pgAdmin on Ubuntu 19.10 will = be v4.29. >=20 > - Due to the age of the Python version it ships with, we've had to = stop producing builds for Ubuntu 16.04 (some of the security related = Python modules are no longer supported on older Python versions). v4.30 = will be the last version supported on Ubuntu 16.04. >=20 > - Builds for Ubuntu 20.10 and Debian 11 (Bullseye/testing) have been = added for the v4.30 release onwards. >=20 > Thank you! >=20 > --=20 > Dave Page > Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com > Twitter: @pgsnake >=20 > EDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com >=20 --Apple-Mail=_1407BECD-CC89-46B2-A7DD-A3E5366CEF5C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 I=E2=80=99cew got it installed on my mac.   I=E2=80=99ll = use it and see what I notice.

Doug = Easterbrook
Arts Management Systems = Ltd.
mailto:doug@artsman.com
http://www.artsman.com
Phone = (403) 650-1978
=

On January 21, 2021, at 7:55 AM, Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> = wrote:

All,

As you know, when run in Desktop mode, pgAdmin 4 uses a = server process which runs all the time and opens a browser window to = display the UI. Very early versions used a Qt based runtime that = integrated the browser and server which gave a much more "normal" = application feel, but unfortunately we found that the Qt browser = components had performance issues.

We've been working on a new runtime = (based on NWjs, similar to Electron) to allow us to get rid of the = separate server process, and I'm please to offer builds for testing = at:

https://developer.pgadmin.org/builds/nwjs-2021-01-21-1/

There you'll find = an installer for 64 bit Windows, a DMG for macOS, and RPM and DEB = packages for Fedora 31, 32 & 33, RHEL/CentOS 7 & 8, Debian 9, 10 = & 11 and Ubuntu 18.04, 20.04 and 20.10.

These builds are based on development = code currently in git that will be released as v4.30 next week. This = includes phase 1 of our Kerberos support (for logging into pgAdmin, but = *not* the database servers), and the new ERD tool. This code is still = going through QA and final improvement, so please bear that in = mind.

We're = aiming to release v5.0 of pgAdmin 4 in late February, based on the new = runtime, so would appreciate as much help and feedback as we can get = prior to the release.

Whilst I'm writing, I'd also like to = give an update on platform support changes;

- As previously noted in release = announcements, Windows 32 bit builds are deprecated. v4.29 will be the = last 32 bit Windows build supported.

- Canonical have dropped support for = Ubuntu 19.10, and now removed all of the packages repositories. We have = therefore had to drop support for it as well; the last supported version = of pgAdmin on Ubuntu 19.10 will be v4.29.

- Due to the age of the = Python version it ships with, we've had to stop producing builds for = Ubuntu 16.04 (some of the security related Python modules are no longer = supported on older Python versions). v4.30 will be the last version = supported on Ubuntu 16.04.

- Builds for Ubuntu 20.10 and Debian 11 (Bullseye/testing) = have been added for the v4.30 release onwards.

Thank you!

--
Dave Page
Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
Twitter: = @pgsnake

EDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com


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