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From: Darren Duncan <[email protected]>
To: Dave Page <[email protected]>
Cc: pgAdmin Support <[email protected]>
Cc: pgadmin-hackers <[email protected]>
Cc: Akshay Joshi <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Proposal: Drop support for Internet Explorer
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 11:26:58 -0700
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The patch looks good as much as I understand it, but this raises an important 
question:

How should one best handle minority browsers that may be completely modern but 
you may not specifically know about them?  Such as the newer crop of browsers 
that emphasize stronger privacy or may have fewer identifiers?

While going on a whitelist as the patch essentially does for known good browsers 
is conservative, I feel that an alteration would be good.

I propose dividing the browsers/environments into 3 categories, which are 
recognized-supported, recognized-unsupported, and unrecognized.

So the unsupported older versions of supported browsers get a stronger message 
encouraging a browser switch as they are recognized as unsupported, while 
unrecognized browsers get a different weaker message saying they weren't 
recognized so we can't determine if they'd work; both can point to the list of 
known supported browsers.

Related to this, there could be an application toggle that affects the 
unrecognized category where users can basically say, yes I understand you don't 
recognize this browser, please hide the warning, or something like that.

Also, it probably goes without saying, but the code/templates will need to be 
structured in such a way that the warning message uses about plain as possible 
HTML so that if the browser doesn't support displaying the UI in general it can 
at least display the message.

-- Darren Duncan

On 2020-04-09 4:36 a.m., Dave Page wrote:
> Hi
> 
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 12:26 AM Darren Duncan wrote:
> 
>     If its hard to know how many people are actually using Internet Explorer:
> 
>     You could make the next release of pgAdmin display a message occasionally to
>     users of Internet Explorer saying that Internet Explorer will no longer be
>     officially supported in a future version, and when that version comes the
>     message says now no longer supported.
> 
>     You can then see how many people contact you about this to express concern.
> 
> 
> Good idea. I've hacked up a patch to warn users if they're using a deprecated or 
> unsupported browser.
> 
> CCing Akshay for a review :-)
> 
> -- 
> Dave Page
> Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
> Twitter: @pgsnake
> 
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