Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jLimp-0002ZF-PP for pgadmin-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 07 Apr 2020 07:36:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jLimn-00048l-O3 for pgadmin-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 07 Apr 2020 07:36:41 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jLimn-00048X-9q for pgadmin-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 07 Apr 2020 07:36:41 +0000 Received: from mail-ed1-x542.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::542]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jLimj-0000Rl-9L for pgadmin-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 07 Apr 2020 07:36:39 +0000 Received: by mail-ed1-x542.google.com with SMTP id i16so2768821edy.11 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2020 00:36:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pgadmin.org; s=google; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=yo4oHMM/hMZzBNnDPOSllLo3I0ztyvH109/FFvpe1UY=; b=MN/IyS1hGM2/mFxaAy2LKEzAgDBvFHY4Td+gm6J1ZZ86OZ42aQu3oljQyjaLEQ/Xg9 3Tp/WRpBTqxDAAje5T6F6TrotvNDqi3gmIJQnYj82De66sw33ms+xROXaYqO05oNMF3P N59DDnHxAz/MckJPgetBY2L17/MOkwdu+dMYu3QEnJ0hkQSCDaX0i2p8AhhcNBO7QOZ3 /xGKDBqON7R4AIrjmSw1SikBdjCju51lRSPN7Nm/rfIMWhsiMlH9pHdUYFxnsN5mZ1VS mPFsueCgPWIIQDHTX7ypt4PrzJOz13FIwvtrzgLbCaXG+2ZZZg/yh6GnTdJbANQ+d4/y b38w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=yo4oHMM/hMZzBNnDPOSllLo3I0ztyvH109/FFvpe1UY=; b=GALlLCkp1x36G+pnjtEvrK3vyew6o1BgVZAuXK3tD9IE5AWUSgewmvXsw1V4ltd/mb WrgyKjY0q/Pj8F7puuBSuxItgHEC95/G1Jp4heXfkI9lxmGTTUFJ3VsUd0JIWVhzdzvA QBxrUnyne6hHee+wOxJJ5m9kHHV42DMmgoMaeF2nC6mValc/wfNn2M+uiLfwgCCNS0j+ K+7nATMCEGVOUcAlbzHKwQjO04ao0FhWs4RCVnrgJoSMFdBDCkP8AfBhN/Q39z3F1pXD tOhJG08XBR9wmCjlM8vvRIpHk5e1ZJjqZy+CvadyGcCugmaT+vLexMArEuCNoTz+Ke50 ajbw== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuZkBmaN7tN/dK3I9fLUHAXdwn/c/sgaIS1WlnzWkILPc6omRP9/ 1Gf6K6L15hgx9+lD/ObcciLIk/6V9nn+1VloHNspZQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypLyhaV3JLKV9ypzn/AslRMysYZFt+yoGS+TffiCRMUdLzdMin2zEF/kzZyqVVuD9R4FMZH5vGCl7iIs5Y4S8wk= X-Received: by 2002:aa7:d88f:: with SMTP id u15mr731996edq.87.1586244995484; Tue, 07 Apr 2020 00:36:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Page Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2020 08:36:24 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Proposal: Drop support for Internet Explorer To: pgAdmin Support , pgadmin-hackers Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000007ba46505a2ae71ad" List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk --0000000000007ba46505a2ae71ad Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" All, Internet Explorer has long been superseded by Microsoft Edge, and even that has recently moved to using Chromium as it's core engine. Version 11 was originally released in 2013, and though Microsoft have committed to supporting it until 2025, as far as I can tell there have been no notable new features in almost it's entire lifetime, and certainly in recent years Microsoft have only been releasing security fixes. As you can imagine, supporting Internet Explorer has a non-trivial cost to it for the pgAdmin project. Not only do we need to test with it as well as Edge, but we also need to write code, CSS and HTML that is fully compatible with what essentially is a 7 year old browser. By comparison, for all other browsers we typically aim to support releases no more than 2 years old. I therefore propose that we officially drop support for Internet Explorer. Practically this means that we would not test with it, and anyone reporting a bug with it would be told to use an alternate browser. Objections/comments please? Thanks! -- Dave Page Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com Twitter: @pgsnake EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company --0000000000007ba46505a2ae71ad Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
All,

Internet Explorer has long been su= perseded=C2=A0by Microsoft Edge, and even that has recently moved to using = Chromium as it's core engine. Version 11 was originally released in 201= 3, and though Microsoft have committed to supporting it until 2025, as far = as I can tell there have been no notable new features in almost it's en= tire lifetime, and certainly in recent years Microsoft have only been relea= sing=C2=A0security fixes.

As you can imagine, supp= orting Internet Explorer has a non-trivial cost to it for the pgAdmin proje= ct. Not only do we need to test with it as well as Edge, but we also need t= o write code, CSS and HTML that is fully compatible with what essentially i= s a 7 year old browser. By comparison, for all other=C2=A0browsers we typic= ally aim to support releases no more than 2 years old.

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I therefore propose that we officially drop support for Internet Explo= rer. Practically this means that we would not test with it, and anyone repo= rting a bug with it would be told to use an alternate browser.
Objections/comments please?

Thanks!

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Dave Page
Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com<= br>Twitter: @pgsnake

EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterpri= se PostgreSQL Company
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