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From: Dave Caughey <caugheyd@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2020 07:41:44 -0400
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Subject: Re: Proposal: Drop support for Internet Explorer
To: Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org>
Cc: pgAdmin Support <pgadmin-support@postgresql.org>,
	pgadmin-hackers <pgadmin-hackers@lists.postgresql.org>
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Check the analytics... I think you'll find dropping it is a non-issue. In
my own web service, I found that IE (all versions) constituted only about
1% of my users.

So I dropped support for IE (since it was preventing me from fully adopting
ES6), and there was not a single complaint from my users.

Cheers,
Dave

On Tue., Apr. 7, 2020, 3:36 a.m. Dave Page, <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:

> All,
>
> Internet Explorer has long been superseded by Microsoft Edge, and even
> that has recently moved to using Chromium as it's core engine. Version 11
> was originally released in 2013, and though Microsoft have committed to
> supporting it until 2025, as far as I can tell there have been no notable
> new features in almost it's entire lifetime, and certainly in recent years
> Microsoft have only been releasing security fixes.
>
> As you can imagine, supporting Internet Explorer has a non-trivial cost to
> it for the pgAdmin project. Not only do we need to test with it as well as
> Edge, but we also need to write code, CSS and HTML that is fully compatible
> with what essentially is a 7 year old browser. By comparison, for all
> other browsers we typically aim to support releases no more than 2 years
> old.
>
> I therefore propose that we officially drop support for Internet Explorer.
> Practically this means that we would not test with it, and anyone reporting
> a bug with it would be told to use an alternate browser.
>
> Objections/comments please?
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Dave Page
> Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
> Twitter: @pgsnake
>
> EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
> The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
>

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<div dir=3D"auto"><div>Check the analytics... I think you&#39;ll find dropp=
ing it is a non-issue. In my own web service, I found that IE (all versions=
) constituted only about 1% of my users.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br><=
/div><div dir=3D"auto">So I dropped support for IE (since it was preventing=
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users.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Cheers,=C2=
=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">Dave<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote" dir=3D"au=
to"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue., Apr. 7, 2020, 3:36 a.m. =
Dave Page, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dpage@pgadmin.org">dpage@pgadmin.org</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
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been no notable new features in almost it&#39;s entire lifetime, and certai=
nly in recent years Microsoft have only been releasing=C2=A0security fixes.=
</div><div><br></div><div>As you can imagine, supporting Internet Explorer =
has a non-trivial cost to it for the pgAdmin project. Not only do we need t=
o test with it as well as Edge, but we also need to write code, CSS and HTM=
L that is fully compatible with what essentially is a 7 year old browser. B=
y comparison, for all other=C2=A0browsers we typically aim to support relea=
ses no more than 2 years old.</div><div><br></div><div>I therefore propose =
that we officially drop support for Internet Explorer. Practically this mea=
ns that we would not test with it, and anyone reporting a bug with it would=
 be told to use an alternate browser.</div><div><br></div><div>Objections/c=
omments please?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks!<br clear=3D"all"><div><br>=
</div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature">Dave Page<=
br>Blog: <a href=3D"http://pgsnake.blogspot.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"n=
oreferrer">http://pgsnake.blogspot.com</a><br>Twitter: @pgsnake<br><br>Ente=
rpriseDB UK: <a href=3D"http://www.enterprisedb.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=
=3D"noreferrer">http://www.enterprisedb.com</a><br>The Enterprise PostgreSQ=
L Company<br></div></div></div>
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