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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 11:01:14 -0500
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Subject: Re: Testing required: pgAdmin 4 with new desktop runtime
To: Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org>
Cc: pgadmin-hackers <pgadmin-hackers@postgresql.org>,
	pgAdmin Support <pgadmin-support@postgresql.org>
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Dave,

Sounds promising, can the new beta be installed alongside the existing
version?

Thanks,

rik.

On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 10:56 AM Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:

> All,
>
> As you know, when run in Desktop mode, pgAdmin 4 uses a server process
> which runs all the time and opens a browser window to display the UI. Very
> early versions used a Qt based runtime that integrated the browser and
> server which gave a much more "normal" application feel, but unfortunately
> we found that the Qt browser components had performance issues.
>
> We've been working on a new runtime (based on NWjs, similar to Electron)
> to allow us to get rid of the separate server process, and I'm please to
> offer builds for testing at:
>
> https://developer.pgadmin.org/builds/nwjs-2021-01-21-1/
>
> There you'll find an installer for 64 bit Windows, a DMG for macOS, and
> RPM and DEB packages for Fedora 31, 32 & 33, RHEL/CentOS 7 & 8, Debian 9,
> 10 & 11 and Ubuntu 18.04, 20.04 and 20.10.
>
> These builds are based on development code currently in git that will be
> released as v4.30 next week. This includes phase 1 of our Kerberos support
> (for logging into pgAdmin, but *not* the database servers), and the new ERD
> tool. This code is still going through QA and final improvement, so please
> bear that in mind.
>
> We're aiming to release v5.0 of pgAdmin 4 in late February, based on the
> new runtime, so would appreciate as much help and feedback as we can get
> prior to the release.
>
> Whilst I'm writing, I'd also like to give an update on platform support
> changes;
>
> - As previously noted in release announcements, Windows 32 bit builds are
> deprecated. v4.29 will be the last 32 bit Windows build supported.
>
> - Canonical have dropped support for Ubuntu 19.10, and now removed all of
> the packages repositories. We have therefore had to drop support for it as
> well; the last supported version of pgAdmin on Ubuntu 19.10 will be v4.29.
>
> - Due to the age of the Python version it ships with, we've had to stop
> producing builds for Ubuntu 16.04 (some of the security related Python
> modules are no longer supported on older Python versions). v4.30 will be
> the last version supported on Ubuntu 16.04.
>
> - Builds for Ubuntu 20.10 and Debian 11 (Bullseye/testing) have been added
> for the v4.30 release onwards.
>
> Thank you!
>
> --
> Dave Page
> Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
> Twitter: @pgsnake
>
> EDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Dave,=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>Sounds promising, can the n=
ew beta be installed alongside=C2=A0the existing version?</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>Thanks,=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>rik.</div></div><br><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan 21, 20=
21 at 10:56 AM Dave Page &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dpage@pgadmin.org">dpage@pga=
dmin.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-le=
ft:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">All,<div><br></div><div>As you know, when run in D=
esktop mode, pgAdmin 4 uses a server process which runs all the time and op=
ens a browser window to display the UI. Very early versions used a Qt based=
 runtime that integrated the browser and server which gave a much more &quo=
t;normal&quot; application feel, but unfortunately we found that the Qt bro=
wser components had performance issues.</div><div><br></div><div>We&#39;ve =
been working on a new runtime (based on NWjs, similar to Electron) to allow=
 us to get rid of the separate server process, and I&#39;m please to offer =
builds for testing at:</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://develope=
r.pgadmin.org/builds/nwjs-2021-01-21-1/" target=3D"_blank">https://develope=
r.pgadmin.org/builds/nwjs-2021-01-21-1/</a></div><div><br></div><div>There =
you&#39;ll find an installer for 64 bit Windows, a DMG for macOS, and RPM a=
nd DEB packages for Fedora 31, 32 &amp; 33, RHEL/CentOS 7 &amp; 8, Debian 9=
, 10 &amp; 11 and Ubuntu 18.04, 20.04 and 20.10.</div><div><br></div><div>T=
hese builds are based on development code currently in git that will be rel=
eased as v4.30 next week. This includes phase 1 of our Kerberos support (fo=
r logging into pgAdmin, but *not* the database servers), and the new ERD to=
ol. This code is still going through QA and final improvement, so please be=
ar that in mind.</div><div><br></div><div>We&#39;re aiming to release v5.0 =
of pgAdmin 4 in late February, based on the new runtime, so would appreciat=
e as much help and feedback as we can get prior to the release.<br clear=3D=
"all"><div><br></div><div>Whilst I&#39;m writing, I&#39;d also like to give=
 an update on platform support changes;</div><div><br></div><div>- As previ=
ously noted in release announcements, Windows 32 bit builds are deprecated.=
 v4.29 will be the last 32 bit Windows build supported.</div><div><br></div=
><div>- Canonical have dropped support for Ubuntu 19.10, and now removed al=
l of the packages repositories. We have therefore had to drop support for i=
t as well; the last supported version of pgAdmin on Ubuntu 19.10 will be v4=
.29.<br></div><div><br></div><div>- Due to the age of the Python version it=
 ships with, we&#39;ve had to stop producing builds for Ubuntu 16.04 (some =
of the security related Python modules are no longer supported on older Pyt=
hon versions). v4.30 will be the last version supported on Ubuntu 16.04.</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>- Builds for Ubuntu 20.10 and Debian 11 (Bullseye/te=
sting) have been added for the v4.30 release onwards.</div><div><br></div><=
div>Thank you!<br></div><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"=
ltr">Dave Page<br>Blog: <a href=3D"http://pgsnake.blogspot.com" target=3D"_=
blank">http://pgsnake.blogspot.com</a><br>Twitter: @pgsnake<br><br>EDB: <a =
href=3D"http://www.enterprisedb.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.enterpris=
edb.com</a><br><br></div></div></div></div>
</blockquote></div>

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