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From: Ken Benson <[email protected]>
To: Jack Royal-Gordon <[email protected]>
To: Dave Caughey <[email protected]>
Cc: Dave Page <[email protected]>
Cc: pgAdmin Support <[email protected]>
Cc: pgadmin-hackers <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Proposal: Drop support for Internet Explorer
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2020 19:06:16 +0000
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From: Jack Royal-Gordon <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 11:45 AM
To: Dave Caughey <[email protected]>
Cc: Dave Page <[email protected]>; pgAdmin Support <[email protected]>; pgadmin-hackers <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Proposal: Drop support for Internet Explorer

I’ve had a similar response from not supporting IE since about 2016. A couple users asked about it and had no problem when I told them we didn’t support it. Mostly, they switched to Chrome.

👍👍


On Apr 7, 2020, at 4:41 AM, Dave Caughey <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Check the analytics... I think you'll find dropping it is a non-issue. In my own web service, I found that IE (all versions) constituted only about 1% of my users.

So I dropped support for IE (since it was preventing me from fully adopting ES6), and there was not a single complaint from my users.

Cheers,
Dave
On Tue., Apr. 7, 2020, 3:36 a.m. Dave Page, <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
All,

Internet Explorer has long been superseded by Microsoft Edge, and even that has recently moved to using Chromium as it's core engine. Version 11 was originally released in 2013, and though Microsoft have committed to supporting it until 2025, as far as I can tell there have been no notable new features in almost it's entire lifetime, and certainly in recent years Microsoft have only been releasing security fixes.

As you can imagine, supporting Internet Explorer has a non-trivial cost to it for the pgAdmin project. Not only do we need to test with it as well as Edge, but we also need to write code, CSS and HTML that is fully compatible with what essentially is a 7 year old browser. By comparison, for all other browsers we typically aim to support releases no more than 2 years old.

I therefore propose that we officially drop support for Internet Explorer. Practically this means that we would not test with it, and anyone reporting a bug with it would be told to use an alternate browser.

Objections/comments please?

Thanks!
[Ken Benson]
The only caution is – I’ve recently (within the past several months) dealt with clients that are locked into IE11 – as a corporate rule.
Ken Benson | ken @ infowerks-dot-com



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