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To: Apple Pine Cc: Ashesh Vashi , pgadmin-support@lists.postgresql.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000a072cd063e0a0654" List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk --000000000000a072cd063e0a0654 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 4 Sept 2025 at 17:08, Apple Pine wrote: > I forgot how mailing lists work. > > So pgAdmin III uses C++ and wxWidgets and pgAdmin 4 uses web-based > technologies? > Yes. > > That's interesting but the question is, will there be a pgAdmin 5? > It's not impossible. There have been 3 other complete rewrites over the last 28 years after all (4, if you count to original rewrite of pgManager to pgAdmin I). > If a web based model is the future, then why shouldn't we say pgAdmin v10 > or simply pgAdmin 10? > In another 50 years we might - and I say that only half-jokingly, as I certainly didn't expect pgAdmin to still be an active project with millions of downloads after nearly 30 years. Will pgAdmin be around in another 50 years? I doubt it, but I'm not going to definitively say no. > > My question should lead to another question: Will there be a pgAdmin 5? > Maybe - who knows what the future will hold, or what technology changes might force another rewrite? > > Sincerely > > Am Fr., 29. Aug. 2025 um 08:35 Uhr schrieb Ashesh Vashi < > ashesh.vashi@enterprisedb.com>: > >> On Thu, Aug 28, 2025 at 11:42=E2=80=AFPM Apple Pine >> wrote: >> >>> hello, >>> >>> why do you name the software pgAdmin 4 v9.7. >>> >>> in most cases pgAdmin 3 is too old therefore pgAdmin 4 is the most use >>> tool for postgres. it's confusing if you write pgAdmin 4 and then the >>> version number. >>> >>> it should be able to understand what pgAdmin 9.7 means. it means pgAdmi= n >>> 4 in the version 9.7. I suggest you to change the name of pgAdmin 4 at >>> least in version 10. >>> >>> so instead of pgAdmin 4 v10 simply write pgAdmin 10. >>> >> There is a history behind everything. :) >> Please find the blog from Dave Page: >> https://pgsnake.blogspot.com/2014/12/the-story-of-pgadmin.html >> >> This is the fourth revision of pgAdmin, hence - pgAdmin 4. >> And - rest are the current version of this edition. >> >> -- Ashesh >> >>> >>> Sincerely >>> >> --=20 Dave Page pgAdmin: https://www.pgadmin.org PostgreSQL: https://www.postgresql.org pgEdge: https://www.pgedge.com --000000000000a072cd063e0a0654 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Thu, 4 Sept = 2025 at 17:08, Apple Pine <app= lesolvent@gmail.com> wrote:
I forgot how mailing lists work.

So = pgAdmin III uses C++ and wxWidgets and pgAdmin 4 uses web-based technologie= s?

Yes.
=C2=A0<= /div>

That's interesting but the question is, will there be a pgAdmin 5= ?

It's not imp= ossible. There have been 3 other complete rewrites over the last 28 years a= fter all (4, if you count to original rewrite of pgManager to pgAdmin I).
=C2=A0
If a=C2=A0web based model is the future, then why shouldn't we s= ay pgAdmin v10 or simply pgAdmin 10?

In another 50 years we might - and I say that only half-j= okingly, as I certainly didn't expect pgAdmin to still be an active pro= ject with millions of downloads after nearly 30 years. Will pgAdmin be arou= nd in another 50 years? I doubt it, but I'm not going to definitively s= ay no.
=C2=A0

My question should lead to another question: = Will there be a pgAdmin 5?

Maybe - who knows what the future will hold, or what technology cha= nges might force another rewrite?
=C2=A0
=

Sincerely
<= /div>

Am Fr., 29. Aug. 2025 um 08:35=C2=A0Uhr schrieb Ashesh Vashi <= ;ashesh.= vashi@enterprisedb.com>:
=
On Thu, Aug 28, 2025 at 11:42=E2=80=AFPM Apple Pine &= lt;applesolvent= @gmail.com> wrote:
hello,

why do yo= u name the software pgAdmin 4 v9.7.

in most cases = pgAdmin 3 is too old therefore pgAdmin 4 is the most use tool for postgres.= it's confusing=C2=A0if you write pgAdmin 4 and then the version number= .=C2=A0

it should be able to understand what pgAdm= in 9.7 means. it means pgAdmin 4 in the version 9.7. I suggest you to chang= e the name of pgAdmin 4 at least in version 10.

so= instead of pgAdmin 4 v10 simply write pgAdmin 10.
There is a history behind everything. :)
Please find the blog= from Dave Page:=C2=A0https://pgsnake.blogspot.com/2014/1= 2/the-story-of-pgadmin.html

This is the fourth revision of pgAdm= in, hence - pgAdmin 4.
And - rest are the current version of this= edition.

-- Ashesh

Sincerely


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