Re: pgAdmin4-9.5 password textbox missing in connection settings

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From: richard coleman <[email protected]>
To: Dave Page <[email protected]>
Cc: Akshay Joshi <[email protected]>
Cc: Aditya Toshniwal <[email protected]>
Cc: pgAdmin Support <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: pgAdmin4-9.5 password textbox missing in connection settings
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2025 08:58:25 -0400
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Hi again,

I can attest that as of 9.1 the password box was always visible in the
Connection tab, at least on Windows 10.

Why would someone *ever* want to hide somethihng so basic as the text input
area for the password?
When would a password textbox never be needed?

These seems to be rather strange UI/workflow choices.  From what little
I've gathered from this breif exchange, it appears that pgAdmin4 has
switched to a workflow that:

   1. Displays the Password label and textbox only when you first Register
   a server.
   2. If the password has been saved, and is still valid, it *hides* both
   the Password text and text box on subsequent displays of the Connection tab.
   3. If the password becomes invalid, then a separate popup dialog is
   presented to the user, independent of the server settings, prompting the
   user to enter the new password.

{insert gif of Buggs Bunny displaying confused contortions here}
Huh?

Who thought that this was a good road to travel down, and how can it be
reverted to a more standard workflow?

In my humble opion, you should *never* diable any of the connection
settings. Especially none of these

   - Host
   - Port
   - Username
   - Password

The user should always be able to see and or change these values.

Here are just a few of very common situations which your current workflow
makes needlessly complicated:

   - You are creating/registering server connections for servers or more
   commonly roles, that don't currently exist.
   - You want to change the saved password in preperation of an imminent
   password change on the server.
   - You want to reuse an existing server connection with a different
   username and password (this one happens quite a bit while testing for me
   personally).

I hope this behavior can be changed/reverted to a some
standard/common/sensible one in the very near future.

Thanks,
rik.

On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 4:07 AM Dave Page <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi
>
> On Thu, 10 Jul 2025 at 07:16, Akshay Joshi <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Richard/Dave,
>>
>> If the server is already registered, the *Password* textbox will not be
>> visible—this has been the intended behavior for many years, if I recall
>> correctly. When you attempt to connect, the system will prompt you for the
>> password if it hasn’t been saved previously.
>>
>
> That seems odd - we normally try to disable rather than hide controls that
> are not needed in a particular context; precisely to avoid this kind of
> confusion.
>
>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 9:39 AM Aditya Toshniwal <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Richard/Dave,
>>>
>>> I'm on 9.5 on my Mac and I can see the password textbox
>>>
>>> [image: image.png]
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 9, 2025 at 9:17 PM Dave Page <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 9 Jul 2025 at 16:28, richard coleman <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've recently upgraded to pgAdmin4-9.5 from pgAdmin4-9.1 on Windows 10.
>>>>> Apparently the Password textbox in the Connection tab has been removed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why has this change been made?
>>>>> How do I get it back?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Both good questions - I see the same issue on macOS.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dave Page
>>>> pgAdmin: https://www.pgadmin.org
>>>> PostgreSQL: https://www.postgresql.org
>>>> pgEdge: https://www.pgedge.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Thanks,
>>> Aditya Toshniwal
>>> pgAdmin Hacker | Sr. Staff SDE II | *enterprisedb.com*
>>> <https://www.enterprisedb.com/;
>>> "Don't Complain about Heat, Plant a TREE"
>>>
>>
>
> --
> Dave Page
> pgAdmin: https://www.pgadmin.org
> PostgreSQL: https://www.postgresql.org
> pgEdge: https://www.pgedge.com
>
>

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