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[pgjdbc/pgjdbc] issue #3635: Consider migrating from spaces to tabs
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* [pgjdbc/pgjdbc] issue #3635: Consider migrating from spaces to tabs
@ 2025-05-21 19:27  "vlsi (@vlsi)" <[email protected]>
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From: vlsi (@vlsi) @ 2025-05-21 19:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgjdbc/pgjdbc <[email protected]>

See
* https://www.reddit.com/r/javascript/comments/c8drjo/nobody_talks_about_the_real_reason_to_use_tabs/

>i get approached by not one, but TWO coworkers who unfortunately are highly visually impaired,
and each has a different visual impairment
> * one of them uses tab-width 1 because he uses such a gigantic font-size
> * the other uses tab-width 8 and a really wide monitor
> * these guys have serious problems using codebases with spaces, they have to convert, do their work, and then unconvert before committing
> * these guys are not just being fussy — it's almost surprising they can code at all, it's kind of sad to watch but also inspiring

Code with tabs consumes [fewer cells on braille displays](https://stitcher.io/blog/tabs-are-better).
Code with tabs consumes the same or bigger amount of tokens when using [ChatGPT 4o tokenizer](https://platform.openai.com/tokenizer). For the small files the number of tokens is more-or-less the same, and a bigger [TrieNode.kt](https://github.com/Kotlin/kotlinx.collections.immutable/blob/bd5ac10f1e3b72c8bd6335005bf27d751e0d8b5...) consumes 8958 tokens (32462 chars) with tabs, and it consumes 8859 tokens (37757 chars) which means 1% more LLM tokens when using tabs :-/

Of course, changing the spaces to tabs would be disruptive, however, it might bearable. I've not explored it yet.
However, it looks going with tabs is the right thing to do.

See:
* https://x.com/Rich_Harris/status/1541761871585464323
* https://github.com/prettier/prettier/issues/7475
* https://stitcher.io/blog/tabs-are-better
* https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/KT-77740/Consider-moving-Kotlin-style-guide-to-tabs-for-the-acc...

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* Re: [pgjdbc/pgjdbc] issue #3635: Consider migrating from spaces to tabs
@ 2025-05-21 20:10  "davecramer (@davecramer)" <[email protected]>
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From: davecramer (@davecramer) @ 2025-05-21 20:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Interesting... BTW, not sure if that is the reason but PostgreSQL uses tabs

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* Re: [pgjdbc/pgjdbc] issue #3635: Consider migrating from spaces to tabs
@ 2025-05-22 17:55  "sehrope (@sehrope)" <[email protected]>
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From: sehrope (@sehrope) @ 2025-05-22 17:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
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The git blame churn for this would be pretty annoying.

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* Re: [pgjdbc/pgjdbc] issue #3635: Consider migrating from spaces to tabs
@ 2025-05-22 23:21  "vlsi (@vlsi)" <[email protected]>
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From: vlsi (@vlsi) @ 2025-05-22 23:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
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git blame would not be impacted at all as we could add it as yet another commit to https://github.com/pgjdbc/pgjdbc/blob/master/.git-blame-ignore-revs

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