Received: from maia.hub.org (maia-5.hub.org [200.46.204.29]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9FC3633B21 for ; Thu, 13 May 2010 19:39:43 -0300 (ADT) Received: from mail.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.86]) by maia.hub.org (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.29]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25679-03 for ; Thu, 13 May 2010 22:39:36 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from spinlock.commandprompt.com (host-215.commandprompt.net [207.173.203.215]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A0AA633B06 for ; Thu, 13 May 2010 19:39:36 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spinlock.commandprompt.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42DA4348034; Thu, 13 May 2010 15:39:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at commandprompt.com Received: from spinlock.commandprompt.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (spinlock.commandprompt.com.commandprompt.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XyP7sQhLvh26; Thu, 13 May 2010 15:39:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [75.142.159.62]) by spinlock.commandprompt.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 92CBC348002; Thu, 13 May 2010 15:39:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: List traffic From: "Joshua D. Drake" Reply-To: jd@commandprompt.com To: "Marc G. Fournier" Cc: Tom Lane , Magnus Hagander , Greg Stark , Robert Haas , Alvaro Herrera , Bruce Momjian , Simon Riggs , pgsql-hackers In-Reply-To: References: <201005111350.o4BDo4x27597@momjian.us> <1273598624-sup-3654@alvh.no-ip.org> <20506.1273785548@sss.pgh.pa.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Organization: Command Prompt, Inc. Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 15:39:18 -0700 Message-ID: <1273790358.8624.3132.camel@jd-desktop.unknown.charter.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.9 tagged_above=-5 required=5 tests=BAYES_00=-1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 201005/706 X-Sequence-Number: 162369 On Thu, 2010-05-13 at 19:13 -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > On Thu, 13 May 2010, Tom Lane wrote: > > > "Marc G. Fournier" writes: > >> On Thu, 13 May 2010, Magnus Hagander wrote: > >>> We tried that with pgsql-hackers-win32 and iirc also > >>> pgsql-hackers-pitr, and it was a big failure... > > > >> But, we are doing that now with pgsql-cluster-hackers and it looks to be > >> working quite well from what I can see ... > > > > Is it? If they want someplace where the majority of hackers won't see > > the discussion, maybe, but I am not sure that's not counterproductive. > > Ideas developed by a small group may or may not survive exposure when > > they reach this list. > > But that, IMHO, is the point of the smaller list ... it allows the group > on that list to hash out their ideas, and, hopefully, deal with both > arguments and counter arguments so that when presented to the larger > group, they would then have a more cohesive arg for their ideas ... Yes and no. After being on these lists for years, I have kind of been moving toward the less is more. E.g; for main list traffic I can see the need for two maybe three, that's it: hackers general www There is no reason why advocacy can't happen on general. Theoretically www could be on hackers (although I do see the point of a separate list). A good MUA will deal with any overhead you have. I use Evolution and no its not perfect but I have no problem managing the hordes of email I get from this community. Between labels, filters, watch lists and all the other goodies any MUA will give you, I see no reason to have this all broken out anymore. Joshua D. Drake -- PostgreSQL.org Major Contributor Command Prompt, Inc: http://www.commandprompt.com/ - 503.667.4564 Consulting, Training, Support, Custom Development, Engineering