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I'm pretty sure that nobody involved noticed the impact on VACUUM ANALYZE command; all discussion was around autovacuum impact; and Jan argued that this was leaving things in a status quo for that, so I conceded the point and left it for a follow-on patch if someone felt the behavior needed to change.=A0 Sorry for the miss. http://www.postgresql.org/message-id/50BB700E.8060404@Yahoo.com As far as I'm concerned all effects on the explicit command were unintended and should be reverted. -- Kevin Grittner EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company --=20 Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers