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* What is VACUUM waiting for?
@ 2008-12-12 22:55 Michael Monnerie <michael.monnerie@is.it-management.at>
2008-12-13 14:30 ` Re: What is VACUUM waiting for? Matthew T. O'Connor <matthew@zeut.net>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Michael Monnerie @ 2008-12-12 22:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pgsql-admin
Dear list, this is postgres 8.1, and I run a dbmail mailserver where we deleted most e-mails.
I then did a VACUUM (see below), and just before the "dbmail_messages" truncated rows
there was a very long time where obviously nothing happened. No CPU usage (<8%) and
no disk I/O (usage <5%). You can see this from the details:
DETAIL: CPU 0.11s/0.23u sec elapsed 294.24 sec.
I would have expected I/Os at least. How does VACUUM work at all?
dbmail=> VACUUM FULL VERBOSE dbmail_messages;
INFO: vacuuming "public.dbmail_messages"
INFO: "dbmail_messages": found 537 removable, 29257 nonremovable row versions in 10406 pages
DETAIL: 0 dead row versions cannot be removed yet.
Nonremovable row versions range from 106 to 106 bytes long.
There were 698152 unused item pointers.
Total free space (including removable row versions) is 78849264 bytes.
7770 pages are or will become empty, including 0 at the end of the table.
10385 pages containing 78848172 free bytes are potential move destinations.
CPU 0.00s/0.02u sec elapsed 2.51 sec.
INFO: index "dbmail_messages_pkey" now contains 29257 row versions in 6842 pages
DETAIL: 537 index row versions were removed.
2801 index pages have been deleted, 2801 are currently reusable.
CPU 0.04s/0.04u sec elapsed 3.56 sec.
INFO: index "dbmail_messages_1" now contains 29257 row versions in 2870 pages
DETAIL: 537 index row versions were removed.
2504 index pages have been deleted, 2504 are currently reusable.
CPU 0.10s/0.02u sec elapsed 7.26 sec.
INFO: index "dbmail_messages_2" now contains 29257 row versions in 6896 pages
DETAIL: 537 index row versions were removed.
2409 index pages have been deleted, 2409 are currently reusable.
CPU 0.23s/0.00u sec elapsed 29.09 sec.
INFO: index "dbmail_messages_3" now contains 29257 row versions in 4270 pages
DETAIL: 537 index row versions were removed.
2695 index pages have been deleted, 2695 are currently reusable.
CPU 0.29s/0.02u sec elapsed 14.26 sec.
INFO: index "dbmail_messages_4" now contains 29257 row versions in 7345 pages
DETAIL: 537 index row versions were removed.
159 index pages have been deleted, 159 are currently reusable.
CPU 0.78s/0.02u sec elapsed 36.18 sec.
INFO: index "dbmail_messages_5" now contains 29257 row versions in 4026 pages
DETAIL: 537 index row versions were removed.
2804 index pages have been deleted, 2804 are currently reusable.
CPU 0.16s/0.01u sec elapsed 12.57 sec.
INFO: index "dbmail_messages_6" now contains 26863 row versions in 2413 pages
DETAIL: 328 index row versions were removed.
1208 index pages have been deleted, 1208 are currently reusable.
CPU 0.12s/0.00u sec elapsed 8.42 sec.
INFO: index "dbmail_messages_7" now contains 29257 row versions in 4856 pages
DETAIL: 537 index row versions were removed.
4422 index pages have been deleted, 4422 are currently reusable.
CPU 0.13s/0.01u sec elapsed 12.45 sec.
INFO: index "dbmail_messages_8" now contains 29257 row versions in 4900 pages
DETAIL: 537 index row versions were removed.
4468 index pages have been deleted, 4468 are currently reusable.
CPU 0.09s/0.01u sec elapsed 12.73 sec.
INFO: "dbmail_messages": moved 23366 row versions, truncated 10406 to 418 pages
DETAIL: CPU 0.11s/0.23u sec elapsed 294.24 sec.
INFO: index "dbmail_messages_pkey" now contains 29257 row versions in 6842 pages
DETAIL: 23366 index row versions were removed.
2804 index pages have been deleted, 2804 are currently reusable.
CPU 0.00s/0.00u sec elapsed 3.46 sec.
INFO: index "dbmail_messages_1" now contains 29257 row versions in 2869 pages
DETAIL: 23366 index row versions were removed.
2542 index pages have been deleted, 2542 are currently reusable.
CPU 0.05s/0.02u sec elapsed 7.36 sec.
INFO: index "dbmail_messages_2" now contains 29257 row versions in 6896 pages
DETAIL: 23366 index row versions were removed.
2410 index pages have been deleted, 2410 are currently reusable.
CPU 0.02s/0.02u sec elapsed 28.41 sec.
INFO: index "dbmail_messages_3" now contains 29257 row versions in 4270 pages
DETAIL: 23366 index row versions were removed.
3838 index pages have been deleted, 3838 are currently reusable.
CPU 0.01s/0.00u sec elapsed 17.15 sec.
INFO: index "dbmail_messages_4" now contains 29257 row versions in 7345 pages
DETAIL: 23366 index row versions were removed.
162 index pages have been deleted, 162 are currently reusable.
CPU 0.01s/0.01u sec elapsed 34.18 sec.
INFO: index "dbmail_messages_5" now contains 29257 row versions in 4025 pages
DETAIL: 23366 index row versions were removed.
3628 index pages have been deleted, 3628 are currently reusable.
CPU 0.00s/0.01u sec elapsed 14.64 sec.
INFO: index "dbmail_messages_6" now contains 26863 row versions in 2400 pages
DETAIL: 22303 index row versions were removed.
2022 index pages have been deleted, 2022 are currently reusable.
CPU 0.00s/0.01u sec elapsed 10.43 sec.
INFO: index "dbmail_messages_7" now contains 29257 row versions in 4856 pages
DETAIL: 23366 index row versions were removed.
4412 index pages have been deleted, 4412 are currently reusable.
CPU 0.00s/0.01u sec elapsed 12.14 sec.
INFO: index "dbmail_messages_8" now contains 29257 row versions in 4900 pages
DETAIL: 23366 index row versions were removed.
4465 index pages have been deleted, 4465 are currently reusable.
CPU 0.00s/0.00u sec elapsed 12.35 sec.
mfg zmi
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* Re: What is VACUUM waiting for?
2008-12-12 22:55 What is VACUUM waiting for? Michael Monnerie <michael.monnerie@is.it-management.at>
@ 2008-12-13 14:30 ` Matthew T. O'Connor <matthew@zeut.net>
2008-12-14 18:27 ` Re: What is VACUUM waiting for? Michael Monnerie <michael.monnerie@is.it-management.at>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Matthew T. O'Connor @ 2008-12-13 14:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Michael Monnerie <michael.monnerie@is.it-management.at>; +Cc: pgsql-admin
Michael Monnerie wrote:
> Dear list, this is postgres 8.1, and I run a dbmail mailserver where we deleted most e-mails.
> I then did a VACUUM (see below), and just before the "dbmail_messages" truncated rows
> there was a very long time where obviously nothing happened. No CPU usage (<8%) and
> no disk I/O (usage <5%). You can see this from the details:
> DETAIL: CPU 0.11s/0.23u sec elapsed 294.24 sec.
> I would have expected I/Os at least. How does VACUUM work at all?
>
Do you have any vacuum delay setting turned on? Perhaps they are too high?
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* Re: What is VACUUM waiting for?
2008-12-12 22:55 What is VACUUM waiting for? Michael Monnerie <michael.monnerie@is.it-management.at>
2008-12-13 14:30 ` Re: What is VACUUM waiting for? Matthew T. O'Connor <matthew@zeut.net>
@ 2008-12-14 18:27 ` Michael Monnerie <michael.monnerie@is.it-management.at>
2008-12-14 18:32 ` Re: What is VACUUM waiting for? Scott Marlowe <scott.marlowe@gmail.com>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Michael Monnerie @ 2008-12-14 18:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pgsql-admin
On Samstag 13 Dezember 2008 Matthew T. O'Connor wrote:
> Do you have any vacuum delay setting turned on? Perhaps they are too
> high?
Oh, I didn't remember there were some for normal vacuum, just the
auto_vaccuum.
vacuum_cost_delay = 250
vacuum_cost_page_hit = 1
vacuum_cost_page_miss = 10
vacuum_cost_page_dirty = 20
vacuum_cost_limit = 1000
Are those values to high/low? What should one use?
I think I will disable it at this one server, setting
vacuum_cost_delay = 0
because it's only one DB here. Still, I'd like to understand what values
would be reasonable on a server with many DBs, as we have some.
mfg zmi
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* Re: What is VACUUM waiting for?
2008-12-12 22:55 What is VACUUM waiting for? Michael Monnerie <michael.monnerie@is.it-management.at>
2008-12-13 14:30 ` Re: What is VACUUM waiting for? Matthew T. O'Connor <matthew@zeut.net>
2008-12-14 18:27 ` Re: What is VACUUM waiting for? Michael Monnerie <michael.monnerie@is.it-management.at>
@ 2008-12-14 18:32 ` Scott Marlowe <scott.marlowe@gmail.com>
0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Scott Marlowe @ 2008-12-14 18:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Michael Monnerie <michael.monnerie@is.it-management.at>; +Cc: pgsql-admin
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Michael Monnerie
<michael.monnerie@is.it-management.at> wrote:
> On Samstag 13 Dezember 2008 Matthew T. O'Connor wrote:
>> Do you have any vacuum delay setting turned on? Perhaps they are too
>> high?
>
> Oh, I didn't remember there were some for normal vacuum, just the
> auto_vaccuum.
>
> vacuum_cost_delay = 250
> vacuum_cost_page_hit = 1
> vacuum_cost_page_miss = 10
> vacuum_cost_page_dirty = 20
> vacuum_cost_limit = 1000
>
> Are those values to high/low? What should one use?
>
> I think I will disable it at this one server, setting
> vacuum_cost_delay = 0
> because it's only one DB here. Still, I'd like to understand what values
> would be reasonable on a server with many DBs, as we have some.
Yeah, any vacuum cost_delay over 20 or so is pretty high. I set it to
10 and vacuum doesn't get in the way but still runs reasonably fast.
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* What is VACUUM waiting for?
@ 2008-12-13 08:13 Michael Monnerie <michael.monnerie@is.it-management.at>
0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Michael Monnerie @ 2008-12-13 08:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pgsql-admin
(Sent again, seems my first message got lost somewhere)
Dear list, this is postgres 8.1, and I run a dbmail mailserver where we
deleted most e-mails.
I then did a VACUUM (see below), and just before the "dbmail_messages"
truncated rows
there was a very long time where obviously nothing happened. No CPU
usage (<8%) and
no disk I/O (usage <5%). You can see this from the details:
DETAIL: CPU 0.11s/0.23u sec elapsed 294.24 sec.
I would have expected I/Os at least. How does VACUUM work at all?
dbmail=> VACUUM FULL VERBOSE dbmail_messages;
INFO: vacuuming "public.dbmail_messages"
INFO: "dbmail_messages": found 537 removable, 29257 nonremovable row
versions in 10406 pages
DETAIL: 0 dead row versions cannot be removed yet.
Nonremovable row versions range from 106 to 106 bytes long.
There were 698152 unused item pointers.
Total free space (including removable row versions) is 78849264 bytes.
7770 pages are or will become empty, including 0 at the end of the
table.
10385 pages containing 78848172 free bytes are potential move
destinations.
CPU 0.00s/0.02u sec elapsed 2.51 sec.
INFO: index "dbmail_messages_pkey" now contains 29257 row versions in
6842 pages
DETAIL: 537 index row versions were removed.
2801 index pages have been deleted, 2801 are currently reusable.
CPU 0.04s/0.04u sec elapsed 3.56 sec.
INFO: index "dbmail_messages_1" now contains 29257 row versions in 2870
pages
DETAIL: 537 index row versions were removed.
2504 index pages have been deleted, 2504 are currently reusable.
CPU 0.10s/0.02u sec elapsed 7.26 sec.
INFO: index "dbmail_messages_2" now contains 29257 row versions in 6896
pages
DETAIL: 537 index row versions were removed.
2409 index pages have been deleted, 2409 are currently reusable.
CPU 0.23s/0.00u sec elapsed 29.09 sec.
INFO: index "dbmail_messages_3" now contains 29257 row versions in 4270
pages
DETAIL: 537 index row versions were removed.
2695 index pages have been deleted, 2695 are currently reusable.
CPU 0.29s/0.02u sec elapsed 14.26 sec.
INFO: index "dbmail_messages_4" now contains 29257 row versions in 7345
pages
DETAIL: 537 index row versions were removed.
159 index pages have been deleted, 159 are currently reusable.
CPU 0.78s/0.02u sec elapsed 36.18 sec.
INFO: index "dbmail_messages_5" now contains 29257 row versions in 4026
pages
DETAIL: 537 index row versions were removed.
2804 index pages have been deleted, 2804 are currently reusable.
CPU 0.16s/0.01u sec elapsed 12.57 sec.
INFO: index "dbmail_messages_6" now contains 26863 row versions in 2413
pages
DETAIL: 328 index row versions were removed.
1208 index pages have been deleted, 1208 are currently reusable.
CPU 0.12s/0.00u sec elapsed 8.42 sec.
INFO: index "dbmail_messages_7" now contains 29257 row versions in 4856
pages
DETAIL: 537 index row versions were removed.
4422 index pages have been deleted, 4422 are currently reusable.
CPU 0.13s/0.01u sec elapsed 12.45 sec.
INFO: index "dbmail_messages_8" now contains 29257 row versions in 4900
pages
DETAIL: 537 index row versions were removed.
4468 index pages have been deleted, 4468 are currently reusable.
CPU 0.09s/0.01u sec elapsed 12.73 sec.
INFO: "dbmail_messages": moved 23366 row versions, truncated 10406 to
418 pages
DETAIL: CPU 0.11s/0.23u sec elapsed 294.24 sec.
INFO: index "dbmail_messages_pkey" now contains 29257 row versions in
6842 pages
DETAIL: 23366 index row versions were removed.
2804 index pages have been deleted, 2804 are currently reusable.
CPU 0.00s/0.00u sec elapsed 3.46 sec.
INFO: index "dbmail_messages_1" now contains 29257 row versions in 2869
pages
DETAIL: 23366 index row versions were removed.
2542 index pages have been deleted, 2542 are currently reusable.
CPU 0.05s/0.02u sec elapsed 7.36 sec.
INFO: index "dbmail_messages_2" now contains 29257 row versions in 6896
pages
DETAIL: 23366 index row versions were removed.
2410 index pages have been deleted, 2410 are currently reusable.
CPU 0.02s/0.02u sec elapsed 28.41 sec.
INFO: index "dbmail_messages_3" now contains 29257 row versions in 4270
pages
DETAIL: 23366 index row versions were removed.
3838 index pages have been deleted, 3838 are currently reusable.
CPU 0.01s/0.00u sec elapsed 17.15 sec.
INFO: index "dbmail_messages_4" now contains 29257 row versions in 7345
pages
DETAIL: 23366 index row versions were removed.
162 index pages have been deleted, 162 are currently reusable.
CPU 0.01s/0.01u sec elapsed 34.18 sec.
INFO: index "dbmail_messages_5" now contains 29257 row versions in 4025
pages
DETAIL: 23366 index row versions were removed.
3628 index pages have been deleted, 3628 are currently reusable.
CPU 0.00s/0.01u sec elapsed 14.64 sec.
INFO: index "dbmail_messages_6" now contains 26863 row versions in 2400
pages
DETAIL: 22303 index row versions were removed.
2022 index pages have been deleted, 2022 are currently reusable.
CPU 0.00s/0.01u sec elapsed 10.43 sec.
INFO: index "dbmail_messages_7" now contains 29257 row versions in 4856
pages
DETAIL: 23366 index row versions were removed.
4412 index pages have been deleted, 4412 are currently reusable.
CPU 0.00s/0.01u sec elapsed 12.14 sec.
INFO: index "dbmail_messages_8" now contains 29257 row versions in 4900
pages
DETAIL: 23366 index row versions were removed.
4465 index pages have been deleted, 4465 are currently reusable.
CPU 0.00s/0.00u sec elapsed 12.35 sec.
mfg zmi
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