Received: from maia.hub.org (maia-3.hub.org [200.46.204.243]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC47363283F for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 17:27:53 -0300 (ADT) Received: from mail.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.86]) by maia.hub.org (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.243]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08861-06 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 20:27:44 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 00:05:01.708041 by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mailgate.caprica.metux.de (caprica.metux.de [82.165.128.25]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6747163239A for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 17:27:44 -0300 (ADT) Received: from mailgate.caprica.metux.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailgate.caprica.metux.de (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o88KN1xX006783 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 22:23:03 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mailgate.caprica.metux.de (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with UUCP id o88KMujv006751 for pgsql-admin@postgresql.org; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 22:22:56 +0200 Received: (from weigelt@localhost) by nibiru.metux.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) id o88KD5lm012352 for pgsql-admin@postgresql.org; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 22:13:05 +0200 Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 22:13:05 +0200 From: Enrico Weigelt To: pgsql-admin@postgresql.org Subject: Re: [NOVICE] - SAN/NAS/DAS - Need advises Message-ID: <20100908201305.GA31637@nibiru.local> Reply-To: weigelt@metux.de Mail-Followup-To: pgsql-admin@postgresql.org References: <89d324187ce4d7f05371a28b479db866@commandprompt.com> <4C868D3C.4050906@krogh.cc> <4C869432.3020604@emolecules.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Terror: bin laden, kill bush, Briefbombe, Massenvernichtung, KZ, X-Nazi: Weisse Rasse, Hitlers Wiederauferstehung, 42, X-Antichrist: weg mit schaeuble, ausrotten, heiliger krieg, al quaida, X-Killer: 23, endloesung, Weltuntergang, X-Doof: wer das liest ist doof X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.51 tagged_above=-10 required=5 tests=BAYES_05=-0.5, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 201009/68 X-Sequence-Number: 35612 * Scott Marlowe wrote: > What really matters here is if the 8gb SAN is as fast as or faster > than the DAS setup. For most people measuring the speed of the > interface is a lot like the famous Tom Lane quote about benchmarking > jet fighters versus airliners by measuring the amount of runway they > need. If you really want to know what's better, you'll have to test the candidates with real loads: record your real runtime load w/ blktrace and replay them on the candidates. Nominal performance parameters as insufficient as a dd or iobench test. For example, take an IBM XIV or DS8k w/ thin provisioning: simply writing zeros (or just the same pattern to all blocks) will give you almost the raw bus speed (maybe adding a little bit overhead inside the storage system), since spindles will idle. Caches (bein RAM or SSD) can make the storage look way faster than it really is (in rare cases, bad cache decisions could make also make it slower). Synthetic tests don't allow you to predict how spindle seeks, bus jams, etc will behave in real production. It *heavily* depends on your workload which storage type (and concrete product) will perform in production, nominal parameters are too vague for enterprise usage. (no, you can't even tell that DAS is faster than SAN). You need to test your workload and then decide which product to use. cu -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/ phone: +49 36207 519931 email: weigelt@metux.de mobile: +49 151 27565287 icq: 210169427 skype: nekrad666 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Embedded-Linux / Portierung / Opensource-QM / Verteilte Systeme ----------------------------------------------------------------------