Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V8yw6-0002kO-CT for pgsql-admin@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 20:41:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V8yw5-0006ZS-MU for pgsql-admin@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 20:41:53 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:7903:4::125]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V8yw4-0006ZL-IX for pgsql-admin@postgresql.org; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 20:41:52 +0000 Received: from www.ipv6.roaringpenguin.com ([2607:f748:1200:fb:70:38:112:54] helo=colo3.roaringpenguin.com) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V8yw1-0004Fv-VF for pgsql-admin@postgresql.org; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 20:41:51 +0000 Received: from vanadium.roaringpenguin.com ([192.168.10.23]) by colo3.roaringpenguin.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id r7CKfmYA024974 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 16:41:48 -0400 Received: from hydrogen.roaringpenguin.com (dfs@hydrogen.roaringpenguin.com [192.168.10.1]) by vanadium.roaringpenguin.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id r7CKfm5Y002929 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 16:41:48 -0400 Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 16:41:48 -0400 From: "David F. Skoll" To: pgsql-admin@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Opinions on SSDs Message-ID: <20130812164148.44a60096@hydrogen.roaringpenguin.com> In-Reply-To: <20130812200504.GA12496@momjian.us> References: <20130812112833.65a97285@hydrogen.roaringpenguin.com> <52090030.4000503@commandprompt.com> <20130812200504.GA12496@momjian.us> Organization: Roaring Penguin Software Inc. X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=roaringpenguin.com; h=date :from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=main; bh=akAxITnfFA+W 43NqTdguox15vwY=; b=lnoPnQC5U3VatQImOkS1Sx5sYcImmMs6vPxDYYfonpnT 4vqYvQStDl3l0YAEkPpVRoyT8z1LBG+hty9lYrWwimSbg1VJiTpuKBJtoAuqEXyj vzr/bKsLusxHsp5AX93Rn5rmAksaCdBLGjR23dwUdq24yqGcBRW+HkI/NDvj8hLV utTqHXFs/GHtZJgzexENdtxbnwaWIoSstHrcJdwGMiuiMYDa5MjcnvNvhdovY6C0 UiCLso3oeFS9fSofLq3eeo/xB6bPxui5gNIjcw5lYL5i6tfyk42kfaVtA8Q8zQfA K/mASaRgvqMMz/RohQvr52srCs3BxzzJqZfh5JYjqg== X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.73 on 192.168.10.23 X-Spam-Score: undef - relay 192.168.10.23 marked with skip_spam_scan X-CanIt-Geo: No geolocation information available for 192.168.10.23 X-CanItPRO-Stream: outgoing (inherits from default) X-CanIt-Archive-Cluster: SQVyZJxqklY5buiWXYCN4T/BjiM X-CanIt-Archived-As: base/20130812 / 01KbUFM2K X-Pg-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-admin Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-admin-owner@postgresql.org On Mon, 12 Aug 2013 16:05:04 -0400 Bruce Momjian wrote: > On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 08:33:04AM -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > Put the pg_xlog on spindles, they are more than fast enough and > > won't eat up the write life of your SSDs. > Given its small size and need for fast fsync, I have WAL on SSDs, and > the data on magnetic disk. You are right the WAL can generate a lot > of writes, but just use smartctl monitoring and replace the SSD when > needed. :-) Nothing like consensus from Pg luminaries. :) Anyway, I've decided to go with spinning disks for this server upgrade. The factors behind my decision: o A server with 16 10Krpm disks will be substantially better than what we have now, and what we have now is managing to keep up with only occasional over-busy periods. o My supplier cannot easily get the 320, 710 or S3700 Intel SSD disks; he claims a shortage of Intel SSD drives. I know too little about non-Intel SSDs to feel comfortable with them. o One of our two database servers is 200km away, so swapping out SSDs on a prophylactic basis is not particularly appetizing. Regards, David. -- Sent via pgsql-admin mailing list (pgsql-admin@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-admin