Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1s5OJR-0058qc-7T for pgsql-admin@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 10 May 2024 11:21:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1s5OJP-00DknY-7O for pgsql-admin@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 10 May 2024 11:21:15 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1s5OJO-00DknP-QQ for pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org; Fri, 10 May 2024 11:21:15 +0000 Received: from fhigh2-smtp.messagingengine.com ([103.168.172.153]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1s5OJM-000KBb-J0 for pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org; Fri, 10 May 2024 11:21:13 +0000 Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailfhigh.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC68811401AD; Fri, 10 May 2024 07:21:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 10 May 2024 07:21:11 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:content-type:date:date:feedback-id:feedback-id :from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :reply-to:subject:subject:to:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy :x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; t=1715340071; x= 1715426471; bh=vKyqyGopZiNZgpdGgXVs3syeC1QZ7WSP9wuOLCmKmNw=; b=Y xmB2NJCGhekHqRMUDqCCh4xCiW3HPYVzVmL4kDcig2kLdCuVPMUEE+jENDMYHJqW bZJDh9tTldqGUj8beW++szS9MLCdI0joMGbn1PyexhP2xPhof3vlKNnE3TQeS/94 JWXxmkVpWeCsOgxVMuNxlPoK387X5Yck82X9/Tg0bbgej0YKG397jzZKhsUAXc9V 2QekacoUULe6Wpz8+RVmfwwy1WIy1Dj56OvL3s+IO+CzVPFmzLps/yOPlTHdTNuE TZgdFIK2tfd7E/aLkNyLjvjZ4FrAyt9S9eemciJUL3bd7evCN2t2f1xEWeh0s+Gv 25cy0TLbtshhpCyjD5RFw== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvledrvdefkedgfeelucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhepfffhvfevuffkgggtugfgjgesthekredttddtjeenucfhrhhomheptehlvhgr rhhoucfjvghrrhgvrhgruceorghlvhhhvghrrhgvsegrlhhvhhdrnhhoqdhiphdrohhrgh eqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepvdektdffudfftdffffehfffhjeejhffgieeuueekjeek fffgudffhfduffffueevnecuffhomhgrihhnpegvnhhtvghrphhrihhsvggusgdrtghomh enucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpegrlhhv hhgvrhhrvgesrghlvhhhrdhnohdqihhprdhorhhg X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: ia2694551:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Fri, 10 May 2024 07:21:11 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=alvh.no-ip.org; s=schmee; t=1715340068; bh=4O0OVaSsPLc252PZbfNgiyPGyBjiXmx8P//2Gbxrg3k=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:From; b=b5zn2DYOvx2EmvrMPuUlj9Gpatl7hhxrmdw/ZlobYQBcNt1tPL299XXi2IjC9DRcd bI+8uASgq0sZwY8VC7NflqbSKbfNO/9A3C3l8ZWuGxEHLcAi3cOmXmhjiERmI2QKkM pu1wkApXPiEIXiumcjXFgqkcjVlb2o+d+NllkJEx8s0a7r07RhSC+e3ve2jIDBTIMu PS3V3GsEnHGmgIiMccfJlGRv2JnfEBMJ/d+5lFhX8meXgeavpFLAoc7Cwzcy9EaRP7 ol3kKr+JH7LI06QSvEJU4L8Nc67ALkavqlPcp0EkQGl7TZ9f+VSrVCHpsC3RwmBVIy 4a0nG4NTzVKcA== Received: by schmee.alvh.no-ip.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D598AF1; Fri, 10 May 2024 13:21:08 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 10 May 2024 13:21:08 +0200 From: Alvaro Herrera To: Nikolay Samokhvalov Cc: Ron Johnson , Laurenz Albe , Pgsql-admin Subject: Re: Request for feature: VACUUM FULL updates pg_stat_all_tables.last_vacuum Message-ID: <202405101121.lnko2euk3ohc@alvherre.pgsql> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On 2024-May-09, Nikolay Samokhvalov wrote: > With RECREATE TABLE, one day, we would be probably have RECREATE TABLE > CONCURRENTLY implemented, making pg_repack less needed. If we really wanted to rename VACUUM FULL, I would go for a name that betrays its CLUSTER implementation -- maybe CLUSTER UNSORTED or so -- and document it together with regular CLUSTER. We don't really need a new top-level command for it IMO. As for pg_repack, I'd much rather get VACUUM SQUEEZE using pg_squeeze as an implementation starting point (without the scheduling stuff though.) -- Álvaro Herrera 48°01'N 7°57'E — https://www.EnterpriseDB.com/