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On May 1, 2023, at 9:25 AM, David G. Johnston <david.g.johnston@gmail.com> wrote:

The arguments about "the Unix way" seem to have forgotten the point about being silent except in cases of exception, and this level of detail already violates that premise.
It would be a reasonable convenience. I think some of the pushback is from the framing that not having it is a defect.

Exactly.  It's a convenience, the lack of which is easily worked around.

What would really be useful are timestamps (both start and completion of dump) and an easy association of ".dat numbers" with table names.

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