Received: from maia.hub.org (unknown [200.46.208.211]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AF43632541 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 14:09:44 -0300 (ADT) Received: from mail.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.86]) by maia.hub.org (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.211]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16755-05 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:09:30 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.8]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A6896324E2 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 14:09:31 -0300 (ADT) Received: from [192.168.0.105] (pool-96-244-14-10.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net [96.244.14.10]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MZQZl-1OHODl1KSz-00LKlm; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:09:21 +0200 Message-ID: <4BB0DEBF.5040401@2ndquadrant.com> Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:09:19 -0400 From: Greg Smith User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100317) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Gould CC: Ramiro Barreca , pgsql-admin@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Virtualization vs. sharing a server References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18be+niAhdoCH0sAUVXzMFnM5uPeH23/l7mO3K g4obIoXoY/+dpnTYhLTkwVDshYfxilhfptenbbkj2aQ/gGF9e8 1LK7ulIBxvTzzygQta7uR7l6U+zIDAg X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.072 tagged_above=-10 required=5 tests=AWL=-1.073, BAYES_50=0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 201003/230 X-Sequence-Number: 34029 Michael Gould wrote: > > I don't know why virtualization is considered a no-no...Since these > are all quad core with 32 gig running Windows 2003 64 bit, we can run > about 100 users concurrently on each application server before we > start to see a strain. > You answered your own question here. Ramiro is looking for suggestions for how to scale up to >500 connections at once, and it's not that likely virtualization can fill any useful role in that context. If you're happy with 100, sure you can deploy on VMware ESX and have that work. There are performance vs. manageability tradeoffs when deciding if virtualized deployment makes sense, and for smaller workloads it's easy to dismiss the performance side of things as not a limiting factor and therefore favor VMs. -- Greg Smith 2ndQuadrant US Baltimore, MD PostgreSQL Training, Services and Support greg@2ndQuadrant.com www.2ndQuadrant.us