Received: from maia.hub.org (maia-2.hub.org [200.46.204.251]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C71E11337B90 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2010 12:45:42 -0400 (AST) Received: from mail.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.86]) by maia.hub.org (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.251]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 59481-09 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2010 16:45:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from gw.wicourts.gov (gwmta.wicourts.gov [165.219.244.99]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60C9F1337B8E for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2010 12:45:35 -0400 (AST) Received: from Courts-MTA by gw.wicourts.gov with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 22 Nov 2010 10:45:34 -0600 Message-Id: <4CEA49C80200002500037CF4@gw.wicourts.gov> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 8.0.1 Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 10:45:28 -0600 From: "Kevin Grittner" To: "Achilleas Mantzios" , Subject: Re: FK disappeared in 8.3.3 References: <201011221213.32035.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> <4CEA30A90200002500037CE1@gw.wicourts.gov> <201011221757.18325.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> In-Reply-To: <201011221757.18325.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.21 tagged_above=-10 required=5 tests=BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 201011/188 X-Sequence-Number: 36154 Achilleas Mantzios wrote: > (imagine having to upgrade 61 installations for which you dont > have ssh/scp ;) sounds fun right? ) I don't have to imagine -- been there, done that. (Not with ships but large geographical distances and needing to trudge through secure facilities with big steel doors every so many feet.) It can be time-consuming and tedious. But then, so can recovering a corrupted database. If I were in your shoes, I'd consider arranging to have a CD-ROM mailed to someone on each ship at its next port, with a script which would automatically perform the update. (Heavily tested in advance, of course.) I strongly recommend that you read through the release notes of 8.3.4 to 8.3.12 and consider whether any of the fixes incorporated in those releases, or the aggregate of all of them, might be worth the effort involved in testing such a script and burning such a CD-ROM. Of course, none of that helps with your current issue; I would just hate to see you pop up here in a few months with bigger problems than this if it can be avoided. -Kevin