Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UZcSa-0005xD-0V for pgsql-admin@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 07 May 2013 07:37:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UZcSZ-00032G-H2 for pgsql-admin@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 07 May 2013 07:37:15 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:7903:4::125]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UZcSY-00032B-Jf for pgsql-admin@postgresql.org; Tue, 07 May 2013 07:37:14 +0000 Received: from mail-vc0-f176.google.com ([209.85.220.176]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UZcST-0007bE-Av for pgsql-admin@postgresql.org; Tue, 07 May 2013 07:37:14 +0000 Received: by mail-vc0-f176.google.com with SMTP id ib11so204569vcb.7 for ; Tue, 07 May 2013 00:37:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=tyZZbCRYB1/ytHEP5KleFJAd/HFDfEjauxROxFFVAA8=; b=QA+7AFOqjolUvLINPlKfXlQ1U/3fOrcxDhaPbsewNplI9RtckqP83Wr7etLaccBlrx I/pQsvQjQpntvgjV3B3PgZNuOl1KJA/GJ/txQYQ8XP/DWDWRh0ifcmEm8BckioD0M6zf asOMCDpWjgVlyi0r2NxPKvgd9TzpmxyhiOjI7Wg7E6CgC01u2mxb9BDeBR9YyA5MpNPn HeGNJk6rxKguGSfiVheHVu8KPSbG+dlJQOY9Grqmr2oU/dF5hhCjtJnj55Y3/bicGrDQ A2zx6fl119MPH0N9YM3hm5nCOJXpLxxMXRiax0YStA8/QGbK+1oUlmO3WN/2XI3sXUob XBAA== X-Received: by 10.52.164.6 with SMTP id ym6mr358938vdb.88.1367912228657; Tue, 07 May 2013 00:37:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (ool-44c0cdb5.dyn.optonline.net. [68.192.205.181]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id tp10sm20370322vec.1.2013.05.07.00.37.07 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 07 May 2013 00:37:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5188AF23.9040203@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 07 May 2013 03:37:07 -0400 From: Stephen Cook User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Craig James CC: pgsql-admin@postgresql.org Subject: Re: top posting? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Pg-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-admin Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-admin-owner@postgresql.org On 5/6/2013 2:15 PM, Craig James wrote: > Just out of curiousity, I see comments like this all the time: > > > (*please* stop top-posting). > > I've been participating in newsgroups since UUCP days, and I've never > encountered a group before that encouraged bottom posting. Bottom > posting has traditionally been considered rude -- it forces readers to > scroll, often through pages and pages of text, to see a few lines of > original material. > > The most efficient strategy, one that respects other members' time, is > to briefly summarize your point at the TOP of a posting, then to > *briefly* quote only the relevant parts of the post to which you are > replying, and bottom-post after the quoted text. That lets your reader > quickly see if it's relevant or not, and move on to the next post. > > Contributors in these newsgroups seem to think it's OK to quote five > pages of someone else's response, then add one or two sentences at the > bottom ... it's just laziness that forces readers to wade through the > same stuff over and over in each thread. > > How did the Postgres newsgroups get started with this "only bottom > post" idea? > > (I'm not trying to start a flame war, just genuinely curious.) > > Craig I always feel good when I see this post, it means I've been following a mailing list for a (relatively) long time... It doesn't matter to me at all, I just go with whatever is generally accepted by the mailing list (or perhaps, whatever is generally accepted by the most vocal part of the mailing list). Although, I only ever really did the whole "inline snippets" thing when I'm tearing someone up in a flame war. Most other replies don't require the precision-quoting. Currently I'm using Thunderbird, a web page, or various mobile apps to check my email, and all of them mark the quoted part well enough that I can skip it and see what is new, or read it knowing full well it is a quote. Haven't done text-only email for ages, but even back then I believe there were markings in the margin for what was a quote and what was new content. -- Stephen -- Sent via pgsql-admin mailing list (pgsql-admin@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-admin