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* Standby server startup question - not broken, just curious
@ 2014-12-17 15:40 John Scalia <jayknowsunix@gmail.com>
2014-12-17 15:49 ` Re: Standby server startup question - not broken, just curious Scott Whitney <scott@journyx.com>
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From: John Scalia @ 2014-12-17 15:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi all,
I've got 3 PostgreSQL servers in a streaming standby configuration: 1 primary and 2 standby. These have been running great for a long time, and they are all running WAL archiving
as an insurance policy to the stream. My questions relate to when any standby is started up, I always see in the logs that it tries to read a couple of WAL segments that should be
present. What would happen if these weren't using WAL archiving - that is the primary wasn't sending them segments? How many segments is a standby usually looking for (I think I
always see two)? I've also seen that if one of these segments is broken or malformed, that the standby errors on start and often fails to start. Could I just remove the segment
causing the problem? After all with streaming working aren't WAL archives just superfluous?
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* Re: Standby server startup question - not broken, just curious
2014-12-17 15:40 Standby server startup question - not broken, just curious John Scalia <jayknowsunix@gmail.com>
@ 2014-12-17 15:49 ` Scott Whitney <scott@journyx.com>
2014-12-17 16:02 ` Re: Standby server startup question - not broken, just curious Scott Ribe <scott_ribe@elevated-dev.com>
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From: Scott Whitney @ 2014-12-17 15:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: John Scalia <jayknowsunix@gmail.com>; +Cc: pgsql-admin
My understanding is this:
Once the standby stops (restarts, HUP, whatever), it needs to connect to the primary and get anything that didn't happen during the down time.
This is _always_ somewhere in a WAL, hence wal_keep_segments. If this is set sufficiently high, you don't _need_ WAL archiving. It will find the missing pieces from those, replay, and get back into streaming mode.
In the event that it's missing pieces it needs to replay, you'll need to reinitialize your standby from a base backup and start it back up.
Someone please correct me if I am wrong.
----- On Dec 17, 2014, at 9:40 AM, John Scalia <jayknowsunix@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I've got 3 PostgreSQL servers in a streaming standby configuration: 1 primary
> and 2 standby. These have been running great for a long time, and they are all
> running WAL archiving
> as an insurance policy to the stream. My questions relate to when any standby is
> started up, I always see in the logs that it tries to read a couple of WAL
> segments that should be
> present. What would happen if these weren't using WAL archiving - that is the
> primary wasn't sending them segments? How many segments is a standby usually
> looking for (I think I
> always see two)? I've also seen that if one of these segments is broken or
> malformed, that the standby errors on start and often fails to start. Could I
> just remove the segment
> causing the problem? After all with streaming working aren't WAL archives just
> superfluous?
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* Re: Standby server startup question - not broken, just curious
2014-12-17 15:40 Standby server startup question - not broken, just curious John Scalia <jayknowsunix@gmail.com>
2014-12-17 15:49 ` Re: Standby server startup question - not broken, just curious Scott Whitney <scott@journyx.com>
@ 2014-12-17 16:02 ` Scott Ribe <scott_ribe@elevated-dev.com>
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From: Scott Ribe @ 2014-12-17 16:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Scott Whitney <swhitney@journyx.com>; Scott Whitney <scott@journyx.com>; +Cc: John Scalia <jayknowsunix@gmail.com>; pgsql-admin
On Dec 17, 2014, at 8:49 AM, Scott Whitney <scott@journyx.com> wrote:
>
> This is _always_ somewhere in a WAL, hence wal_keep_segments. If this is set sufficiently high, you don't _need_ WAL archiving. It will find the missing pieces from those, replay, and get back into streaming mode.
In addition, I believe it looks for local WAL copy first, before fetching from primary.
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