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* Oldest xmin is far in the past
@ 2012-06-30 05:56 Christian Rosnes <christian.rosnes@gmail.com>
  2012-06-30 13:55 ` Re: Oldest xmin is far in the past Jerry Sievers <gsievers19@comcast.net>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread

From: Christian Rosnes @ 2012-06-30 05:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-admin

Hi,

Coming back from vacation, I find a PostgreSQL database cluster (Pg
version: 9.0.4)
with 5 databases, which for the past 5 days have logged these messages:

  WARNING:  oldest xmin is far in the past
  HINT:  Close open transactions soon to avoid wraparound problems.

The cluster has been running continously for over 9 months with autovacuum
enabled.

Doing a:

  vacuumdb -h <host> -U postgres -v -a

vacuums the tables, and also emits the same messages while vacuuming:

  WARNING:  oldest xmin is far in the past
  HINT:  Close open transactions soon to avoid wraparound problems.

Checking with:

 "SELECT datname, age(datfrozenxid) FROM pg_database;"

vacuum did not reduce the age of datfrozenxid:

  datname   |    age
------------+-----------
 template1  | 208249541
 template0  | 208249541
 postgres   | 208249541
 db1        | 208249541
 db2        | 208249541
 db3        | 208249541
 db4        | 208249541
 db5        | 208249541


Running

 "SELECT relname, age(relfrozenxid) FROM pg_class WHERE relkind = 'r' order
by age(relfrozenxid) desc;"

on each database, I see that the age is still high for some of the shared
catalogs:


**pg_class:
         relname         |    age
-------------------------+-----------
 pg_db_role_setting      | 208249542
 pg_authid               | 208249542
 pg_database             | 208249542
 pg_shdescription        | 208249542
 pg_shdepend             | 208249542
 pg_auth_members         | 208249542
 pg_pltemplate           | 208249542
 pg_tablespace           | 208249542


Max age of usergenerated tables (ie not pg_ tables):

  max age(relfrozenxid)
  db1: 169036643
  db2: 208249548
  db3: 169036553
  db4: 191294331
  db5: 64496585


Looking at 'db2' in the cluster, I see that in fact _every relation_ listed
with:

  "SELECT relname, age(relfrozenxid) FROM pg_class WHERE relkind = 'r'
order by age(relfrozenxid) desc;"

have

  age(relfrozenxid) = 208249548    (at the time of running the query)

Could the problem be in this 'db2' ?

However running 'vacuumdb -h <host> -U postgres -a' does not seem to fix
the problem.

Using:

  "select procpid, datname,usename,query_start from pg_stat_activity order
by query_start;"

I cannot find any 'idle in transaction' connected, and I can see one 'idle'
connection
(but not 'idle in transaction') which is almost 24 hours old, the rest is
from early this morning.

Also:

  ps auxww|grep 'trans'

finds no 'idle in transactions'.

So, I'm looking for ways to fix this 'wraparound' problem for this database
cluster.

Are any of these options candidates for solving the wraparound issue ?

OPTION 1) Shutdown all application brokers connected to the databases and
then do another

  vacuumdb -h <host> -U postgres -v -a

OPTION 2) Shutdown all application brokers connected, stop the database
cluster, start the database cluster
   and then do another

  vacuumdb -h <host> -U postgres -v -a

OPTION 3) Close all brokers connected to the database,
   do a full dump of db2 (which has user tables with highest xid age),
   drop database db2
   restore db2

OPTION 4) Close all brokers connected to the database,
   do a full dump of all 5 databases,
   rename the the datadb cluster dir: mv /dbcluster /dbcluster.old
   do a new initdb /dbcluster
   restore the 5 databases to new /dbcluster


Or are there anything else I could try to fix this ?


Thank you

Christian

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* Re: Oldest xmin is far in the past
  2012-06-30 05:56 Oldest xmin is far in the past Christian Rosnes <christian.rosnes@gmail.com>
@ 2012-06-30 13:55 ` Jerry Sievers <gsievers19@comcast.net>
  2012-06-30 14:22   ` Re: Oldest xmin is far in the past Christian Rosnes <christian.rosnes@gmail.com>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread

From: Jerry Sievers @ 2012-06-30 13:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Christian Rosnes <christian.rosnes@gmail.com>; +Cc: pgsql-admin

Christian Rosnes <christian.rosnes@gmail.com> writes:

> Hi,
>
> Coming back from vacation, I find a PostgreSQL database cluster (Pg version: 9.0.4)
> with 5 databases, which for the past 5 days have logged these messages:
>
> ? WARNING:? oldest xmin is far in the past
> ? HINT:? Close open transactions soon to avoid wraparound problems.
>
> The cluster has been running continously for over 9 months with autovacuum enabled.

<snip>>

> I cannot find any 'idle in transaction' connected, and I can see one 'idle' connection
> (but not 'idle in transaction') which is almost 24 hours old, the rest is from early this morning.
>
See if there is a prepared transaction still open.  Query pg_prepared_xacts.

HTH

-- 
Jerry Sievers
Postgres DBA/Development Consulting
e: postgres.consulting@comcast.net
p: 732.216.7255



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* Re: Oldest xmin is far in the past
  2012-06-30 05:56 Oldest xmin is far in the past Christian Rosnes <christian.rosnes@gmail.com>
  2012-06-30 13:55 ` Re: Oldest xmin is far in the past Jerry Sievers <gsievers19@comcast.net>
@ 2012-06-30 14:22   ` Christian Rosnes <christian.rosnes@gmail.com>
  2012-06-30 15:27     ` Re: Oldest xmin is far in the past Christian Rosnes <christian.rosnes@gmail.com>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread

From: Christian Rosnes @ 2012-06-30 14:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jerry Sievers <gsievers19@comcast.net>; +Cc: pgsql-admin

On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Jerry Sievers <gsievers19@comcast.net>wrote:

> Christian Rosnes <christian.rosnes@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Coming back from vacation, I find a PostgreSQL database cluster (Pg
> version: 9.0.4)
> > with 5 databases, which for the past 5 days have logged these messages:
> >
> > ? WARNING:? oldest xmin is far in the past
> > ? HINT:? Close open transactions soon to avoid wraparound problems.
> >
> > The cluster has been running continously for over 9 months with
> autovacuum enabled.
>
> <snip>>
>
> > I cannot find any 'idle in transaction' connected, and I can see one
> 'idle' connection
> > (but not 'idle in transaction') which is almost 24 hours old, the rest
> is from early this morning.
> >
> See if there is a prepared transaction still open.  Query
> pg_prepared_xacts.
>
>
Hi,

Many thanks for your reply.

Doing a:

  psql -U postgres -d postgres -c "select * from  pg_prepared_xacts;"

I see that there are 72 transactions (across the 5 databases in this
cluster) with the 'prepared' values listed as various dates in april 2012,
ie. over 2 months old.

I guess the solution could that for each of the 'gid' values listed from
the query above, do a:

   psql -U postgres -d postgres -c "ROLLBACK PREPARED '<gid>';"

And then do a "vacuumdb -a" to see if it fixes the problem.

Thank again,

Christian

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* Re: Oldest xmin is far in the past
  2012-06-30 05:56 Oldest xmin is far in the past Christian Rosnes <christian.rosnes@gmail.com>
  2012-06-30 13:55 ` Re: Oldest xmin is far in the past Jerry Sievers <gsievers19@comcast.net>
  2012-06-30 14:22   ` Re: Oldest xmin is far in the past Christian Rosnes <christian.rosnes@gmail.com>
@ 2012-06-30 15:27     ` Christian Rosnes <christian.rosnes@gmail.com>
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread

From: Christian Rosnes @ 2012-06-30 15:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jerry Sievers <jerry.sievers@comcast.net>; +Cc: pgsql-admin

On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Jerry Sievers <jerry.sievers@comcast.net>wrote:

> Christian Rosnes <christian.rosnes@gmail.com> writes:
> > Doing a:
> >
>
> ? psql -U postgres -d postgres -c "select * from? pg_prepared_xacts;"
> >
> > I see that there are 72 transactions (across the 5 databases in this
> cluster) with the 'prepared' values listed as
> > various dates in april 2012,
> > ie. over 2 months old.
> >
> > I guess the solution could that for each of the 'gid' values listed from
> the query above, do a:
> > ?
> > ?? psql -U postgres -d postgres -c "ROLLBACK PREPARED '<gid>';"
> > ??
> > And then do a "vacuumdb -a" to see if it fixes the problem.
>
> It should resolve the problem of your DB moving towards wrap-around.
>
>
Hi again,

Removing the prepared transactions from the various databases in the
cluster,
and then doing 'vacuumdb -a' , have reduced the xid age:

  "SELECT datname, age(datfrozenxid) FROM pg_database;"

  datname   |    age
------------+-----------
 template1  |  15111324
 template0  |  15110823
 postgres   | 117559433
 db1        |  50012676
 db2        |  50018385
 db3        |  50010002
 db4        | 125206156
 db5        | 123204503


> That said; your system may be very bloated and require some of the
> aggressive measures that you already highlighted in your original memo
> to  solve for that.
>
>
I could schedule a service window where a logical backup/restore
is combined with a PostgreSQL major version update.

Again, thanks so much for your help in resolving our wraparound situation.

Christian

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