Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jyTsd-0000OJ-KR for pgsql-admin@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 23 Jul 2020 05:34:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jyTsc-0001np-Ac for pgsql-admin@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 23 Jul 2020 05:34:54 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jyTsc-0001ni-38 for pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 23 Jul 2020 05:34:54 +0000 Received: from mail-pg1-x52f.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::52f]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jyTsZ-0004iX-L6 for pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 23 Jul 2020 05:34:53 +0000 Received: by mail-pg1-x52f.google.com with SMTP id g67so2489177pgc.8 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 22:34:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=references:user-agent:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:message-id:date :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LH5nwQ+mVKUZNshhcwagKF2g1X9WKzXGqwAdy8e2nJM=; b=Bjxcid8Ov4HJXXgoUf9QUZieIcgKO+FrgcuC1WKCJkDsXMpmZDV2gjzGf2DDywaFTt wRA+hP/pOV/dhL8goLzF9ophFiox00TbcO+2OqXr0EtQ5vExU2PHvLkwe0P4nQK+9HAE I+uMZFDedJCgLVaAqege4ieTvv7Ayg1g/bhIpf0wWn/mgACaLZkpf8SQPIPA4MJHJWRZ GSXkGAb87mPZzWWRMKpSuEEdZSM7mUsaqf0Dba+ecAzmu2gYvWqJ+WJR9dT7OQraFGl1 dhaRmbc/A9Ku9Ygst0VdusYqtTbt9MG3+KzjFnmqPlKs7k1sk8Ql4YWN1mXTNYljevIZ /AEQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:references:user-agent:from:to:subject :in-reply-to:message-id:date:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LH5nwQ+mVKUZNshhcwagKF2g1X9WKzXGqwAdy8e2nJM=; b=mnUK/aVLZlmnWyvHLaO+fnfp7TOvBFURqk/pQC4hy1AD3oL8+B69p8v7b0cGm56xRh Tx4nxL/luvHiXolf7Fg2aBc8+rFyNqD3wHnPrr4rV7wBlDULoqEkUtZfklGn6nG0I+QC jxcrFW9Jo3slW4APTC+tq2XrfeseIDwLxPYq0fjLBgg8Sx2ZsBQW5knTCfuUaMlpvQGA GvxDHfVxSeq0GC5d1rn0ngi/G2+Tcaz4jt9dYMbumNfD/phTVehj+dnCQrIS1lDtFPi4 PY0uSHzOCNGg0WWPhT769yayWa+XpvdyIDNWNLIP0rhepP4lbfdWuxtua+HABf4tZsSj bQ5A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532LF+8/FT0vl1z3t/UiUzFVxmTOTzLYCsnhsjEz/Fg7ypox7WNp mttA7SdRn00CI2XBC3OQ16mj4iQr X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxHC3d4xbjnIxnQSMUIS93pxUfXSE6Q8BODCoY/g9pbX2ActAZ5ELZS5iqmnzcnm4EJniujcw== X-Received: by 2002:aa7:8f03:: with SMTP id x3mr2600771pfr.64.1595482489509; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 22:34:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tim-desktop (220-235-170-239.dyn.iinet.net.au. [220.235.170.239]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z2sm1431777pff.36.2020.07.22.22.34.47 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 22 Jul 2020 22:34:48 -0700 (PDT) References: <2BCA8D4B-E94D-4F2F-99A5-D783912A1CDF@gmail.com> <20200722185541.GE3899@momjian.us> <6D40812C-3F42-41A2-A548-4EC7754DF473@gmail.com> User-agent: mu4e 1.5.5; emacs 27.0.91 From: Tim Cross To: pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org Subject: Re: Encryption in pg_dump In-reply-to: <6D40812C-3F42-41A2-A548-4EC7754DF473@gmail.com> Message-ID: <87zh7qbxqk.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 15:34:44 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk Paul F=C3=B6rster writes: > Hi Bruce, > >> On 22. Jul, 2020, at 20:55, Bruce Momjian wrote: >>=20 >> Does anyone know why we are getting so many requests for encrypting >> dumps all of a sudden? > > probably because a) people don't read past posts and b) more and more IT = heads decide that *everything*, be it internal to the company or not, has t= o be encrypted. > Yes, I think the IT heads issue is the primary driver - combined with very poor understanding of information security at senior levels and a huge growth of poor quality and 'snake oil salesmen' in the IT security spa= ce due to the amount of money ill informed senior managers are throwing at what they think is a technical problem which usually is in fact a business process problem.=20 --=20 Tim Cross