Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f8BZy-0000UT-9d for pgsql-admin@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 16 Apr 2018 21:22:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f8BZw-00005I-VI for pgsql-admin@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 16 Apr 2018 21:22:24 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:1501:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f8BZw-000058-Ky for pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 16 Apr 2018 21:22:24 +0000 Received: from cat-porwal-prod-mail1.catalyst.net.nz ([202.78.240.226]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f8BZo-0005L4-3r for pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 16 Apr 2018 21:22:22 +0000 Authentication-Results: auth=pass smtp.auth=mark.kirkwood@catalyst.net.nz smtp.mailfrom=mark.kirkwood@catalyst.net.nz Received: from [IPv6:2406:e001:e07:1:31eb:f3b4:3144:563d] (unknown [IPv6:2406:e001:e07:1:31eb:f3b4:3144:563d]) (Authenticated sender: mark.kirkwood@catalyst.net.nz) by cat-porwal-prod-mail1.catalyst.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 394CB812A9 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2018 09:22:09 +1200 (NZST) Subject: Re: How to tell if PGSQL 8.4 is in standby mode To: pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org References: <002701d3d529$76a8dd70$63fa9850$@telium.ca> <037ec8bb-72d2-b0c3-d218-2211c9b5e3cf@catalyst.net.nz> <257d168e-8c50-f85c-fffd-5c90fe02f09e@gmail.com> From: Mark Kirkwood Message-ID: <8d71ebd3-79a1-2a2e-546d-10cbea13c656@catalyst.net.nz> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2018 09:22:09 +1200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <257d168e-8c50-f85c-fffd-5c90fe02f09e@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk On 17/04/18 00:53, Ron wrote: > On 04/16/2018 03:18 AM, Mark Kirkwood wrote: >> > [snip] >> >> 8.4? Seriously, there are so many reasons to be using a later version! > > If the customer says "don't upgrade because we don't want to disturb a > running system", then... you don't upgrade.  It's as simple as that. > > Well, left to themselves - all customers will say that. It is up to us IT guys to explain to them the benefits of keeping current and the risks of not doing so. E,g in this case: - really hard to tell if standby is up to date - ...and will actually come up if needed - hard to get help in the advent of problems (not many people are current with 8,.4 replication for instance) regards Mark