Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1p6DXO-00057E-Bz for pgsql-admin@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2022 16:26:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1p6DXN-0003V1-9Q for pgsql-admin@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2022 16:26:17 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1p6DXM-0003Us-VJ for pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2022 16:26:16 +0000 Received: from mailout.easymail.ca ([64.68.200.34]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1p6DXJ-00063E-GW for pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2022 16:26:15 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailout.easymail.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFD8467632; Fri, 16 Dec 2022 16:26:11 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at emo07-pco.easydns.vpn Received: from mailout.easymail.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (emo07-pco.easydns.vpn [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XoS0lpo-HnUu; Fri, 16 Dec 2022 16:26:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpclient.apple (unknown [165.140.184.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailout.easymail.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 08A82675CE; Fri, 16 Dec 2022 16:26:08 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3731.300.101.1.3\)) Subject: Re: Password complexities in Postgres v14.6 From: Scott Ribe In-Reply-To: <3682760.1671207449@sss.pgh.pa.us> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2022 09:25:57 -0700 Cc: Magnus Hagander , Laurenz Albe , Daulat , pgsql-admin Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <2192ed923b577ce4a8a90479c7ed1c97f7a6523d.camel@cybertec.at> <3675887.1671203806@sss.pgh.pa.us> <3682760.1671207449@sss.pgh.pa.us> To: Tom Lane X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3731.300.101.1.3) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk > On Dec 16, 2022, at 9:17 AM, Tom Lane wrote: > > ... > (I agree that forced password rotations are also an obsolete security > practice, but figured that one bit of push-back at a time was enough.) I believe that NIST is now on board with this opinion, aren't they?