Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1vUR19-00AsHK-2R for pgsql-admin@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2025 14:54:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1vUR16-00AsS1-33 for pgsql-admin@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2025 14:54:41 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1vUR16-00AsRt-1G for pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2025 14:54:41 +0000 Received: from mail-ot1-x330.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::330]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1vUR14-000XrH-1U for pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2025 14:54:40 +0000 Received: by mail-ot1-x330.google.com with SMTP id 46e09a7af769-7c765f41346so1097493a34.3 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2025 06:54:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1765637676; x=1766242476; darn=lists.postgresql.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=SWd112KpPcoldRO3o86mccL5JY3Y0VFen/Kc4/hL/RM=; b=AlXBcGfM4tCi8HK3n5fGbOyO4aRoPDjJC1KNlssqt92e4gvmCZkNqYqkSQNLrSy24x jsKWJt8y8lKw70tf3GEiOeyyGM80L77p2m1ANGs77Aseva6b2svw9Qv7dGAFa10YsPPN XyUs1IKrnz/7GyuYyAimTLOldV4dfgYYZ3neiaDz/VdusgZ8OEHkoXeeBdObx5x1ISMK glicJILjkeax/NtTTf9rkAwF35BKb1gmjl0mWSDX8pkEheXqZLuSccnm/oVaiBJeQBMD iem5eSdPVMljwb+60J4PxdSmyOPAlRj3l6bB80jJrUpUhuCVd8y4rq5N5lzQQ1q8CdvM kQvw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1765637676; x=1766242476; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:x-gm-gg:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=SWd112KpPcoldRO3o86mccL5JY3Y0VFen/Kc4/hL/RM=; b=AkF7eoRUh/m+CyuQRpC22E08YqTCxroPclSaqNcxwNxVbN5lQEvAEf01C8kykJw0K7 C3dIVflt/Raeu20JZM4q0prn1i0s3PoHRnJJ8R6ee+NpZolqyfO4ySBlIqbLIRtWzAFs i/45G0QTzd9vk6SB1zUZnNZ1MhQXoNlL/4EZTnk7egYG0p66SVOc4XAQ7rgggnZdmfQN b9S1AcDUO45et4cK6gJ5SnlwRHKtQtHwD1uOy4MPxOdm+7h2kD3levtWDF2zDVoOqMio HxDar4L9C74VWYchg4j9zeq6i3GbTHHDICjJNg+A8SEzHuy/q5EFNoVvyTz6QgOI1Y7S mixA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwLGFwZEZD6iWr8ynRq0Uw7kC4jCGhNVqBPa1m8i3L5BjGNkrmR XtfgpKM8Ef8TzlOHeEYJLvgCBmltje3/fbJnZa1jGcQYYP2YrgBU6R7WXVrl8Qhe8HeFaoc/5ny 3qf0uiOhYQGqsk04MTlgXzldt3J9aQy4= X-Gm-Gg: AY/fxX6egcqqw/Z24G/YN1pf/kybBtXM6lfct7dKllnMMA7d7oPiOa1sptPubCTMIrl QururgllMpL1iPuuoqJuDJpmV6Y8anLc82JTtvrO7zhTFfUeJbD9sSN1U4mz7Q/6KzjFh6rHX+Z 3WMrMuG8uLpQ3XpVT/OHxLcAXGuqkwY47WxL9UhrIsh6eWTrlyxAMwleDV0/SxrL5l3+ZU1oyFD 9zFWVtjz4HxfjwknYLedEfioSUTse5hvTCSWeRuMubm/K9k0CpZJeNNnzqrf0rk8PYw4w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGCck4eVqKzOcCEYWkOBz8ynQorxHDw7v89Cp8zJmFiC0BCDeob3JCThm/XyAW2UD+pPsmkk29SY7ZI/hQ2vRk= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6820:3089:b0:65b:246d:efe0 with SMTP id 006d021491bc7-65b451e34a9mr2445546eaf.55.1765637675852; Sat, 13 Dec 2025 06:54:35 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:ac9:4406:0:b0:610:c9fd:4d2f with HTTP; Sat, 13 Dec 2025 06:54:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <471a0d22-f769-450d-a084-74ece10915d5@netcologne.de> References: <2046739.1758254802@sss.pgh.pa.us> <471a0d22-f769-450d-a084-74ece10915d5@netcologne.de> From: "David G. Johnston" Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2025 07:54:35 -0700 X-Gm-Features: AQt7F2oDuBWkZ4zUYpSkS-mPKFKCCe_ObXubHlSYMe_NVQzUh68A_kqQ5aScIKk Message-ID: Subject: Re: pgping? To: Gunnar Cc: "pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000078a5e50645d68e71" List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk --00000000000078a5e50645d68e71 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Friday, December 12, 2025, Gunnar wrote: > > my latest experience with pg_isready reminded me that it only works on a > general level (cluster ready generally) though. > If you include a database to the command it still reports true even if th= e > database you want to address does not exist. > > That said I remember that I read this was broken since ... forever, which > means nobody cares. > > It isn=E2=80=99t broken - it is working precisely as intended and required = for the use cases it=E2=80=99s meant to solve. That=E2=80=99s why no one is fixing= it. These people that want it to solve additional use cases need to step up and implement some new features for it. David J. --00000000000078a5e50645d68e71 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Friday, December 12, 2025, Gunnar <tongji@netcologne.de> wrote:

my latest experience with pg_isready reminded me that it only = works on a general level (cluster ready generally) though.
If you include a database to the command it still reports true even if the = database you want to address does not exist.

That said I remember that I read this was broken since ... forever, which m= eans nobody cares.


It isn=E2=80=99t broken - it is working pr= ecisely as intended and required for the use cases it=E2=80=99s meant to so= lve.=C2=A0 That=E2=80=99s why no one is fixing it.=C2=A0 These people that = want it to solve additional use cases need to step up and implement some ne= w features for it.

David J.

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