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From: Ron Johnson <[email protected]>
To: Pgsql-admin <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Guidance Needed for PostgreSQL Upgrade from 12 to 15
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2024 13:45:42 -0500
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pg_dumpall uses a single thread to generate one big .sql file.  If your
database(s) are small enough that generating (even a compressed) .sql file,
copying it then importing it is Good Enough, then that's fine.

Otherwise, "logical replication" or "multithreaded pg_dump" is what you
want.

On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 1:17 PM Motog Plus <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dear Team,
> Thank you for your valuable inputs on the PostgreSQL upgrade.
> Given the challenges encountered with pg_upgrade in a Kubernetes
> environment, we're considering a more traditional approach involving
> pg_dumpall to take backup and then restore the data using psql utility.
> Can you please advise if this approach will be fine or you see any issues
> with it?
>
> A high level overview of the steps:
>
> 1. Backup:
>    * Connect to the existing PostgreSQL 12 pod.
>    * Execute pg_dumpall to create a complete database dump.
>
>  2. New Deployment:
>    * Create a new PostgreSQL 16 pod.
>    I think no need to use initidb as it will be autoinitialized .
>
>  3. Restore:
>    * Transfer the backup file to the new pod.
>    * Use psql utility to restore the database from the dump.
>
>  4. Verification:
>    * Thoroughly test the restored database to ensure data integrity and
> functionality.
>
>  5. Cutover:
>    * Once verification is complete, switch over traffic to the new
> PostgreSQL 16 pod.
>    * Delete the old PostgreSQL 12 pod.
>
> Best Regards,
> Ramzy
>
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024, 02:47 Scott Ribe <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> > On Nov 19, 2024, at 1:40 PM, Kris Deugau <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > I stand corrected.  I hadn't read the docs on pg_upgrade for quite a
>> while, but after reading the last section in
>> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/pgupgrade.html:
>> >
>> > "If you did not start the new cluster, the old cluster was unmodified
>> except that, when linking started, a .old suffix was appended to
>> $PGDATA/global/pg_control. To reuse the old cluster, remove the .old suffix
>> from $PGDATA/global/pg_control; you can then restart the old cluster."
>> >
>> > I see what you mean.
>> >
>>
>> There's nothing wrong per se about taking the snapshot before, I was just
>> saving the potential time of re-running pg_upgrade. Heck, take a snapshot
>> before *and* after ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>>

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