Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nAgbE-0008MZ-IM for pgsql-admin@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 20 Jan 2022 23:12:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nAgbC-0006B9-QX for pgsql-admin@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 20 Jan 2022 23:12:10 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nAgbC-0006Ay-Fm for pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 20 Jan 2022 23:12:10 +0000 Received: from mailout.easymail.ca ([64.68.200.34]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nAgb9-0003Dz-Or for pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 20 Jan 2022 23:12:10 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailout.easymail.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4607380C20; Thu, 20 Jan 2022 23:12:05 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at emo03-pco.easydns.vpn Received: from mailout.easymail.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (emo03-pco.easydns.vpn [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id svDWpa1m8QxG; Thu, 20 Jan 2022 23:12:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpclient.apple (unknown [4.28.96.150]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailout.easymail.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DF96980C1B; Thu, 20 Jan 2022 23:12:04 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.120.0.1.13\)) Subject: Re: Password authorization From: Scott Ribe In-Reply-To: <2D2D1BDD-A6F8-4EAE-B302-2C39DB5CE81B@pendari.org> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2022 16:12:03 -0700 Cc: pgsql-admin Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <2D2D1BDD-A6F8-4EAE-B302-2C39DB5CE81B@pendari.org> To: Gavan Schneider X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.13) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk > On Jan 20, 2022, at 3:52 PM, Gavan Schneider = wrote: >=20 > On 21 Jan 2022, at 3:24, Daulat wrote: >=20 >> Yes, you are right, I am planning for password complexity rules and = to, force users to change their password. >>=20 > While you are in the planning stages you may wish to review current = best practice, e.g., USA National Institute of Standards and Technology. >=20 > For me the most interesting aspect of the revised standard is how = forcing password changes and complexity rules often leads to reduced = security in the real world. >=20 > Refer: > https://pages.nist.gov/800-63-3/sp800-63-3.html > https://auth0.com/blog/dont-pass-on-the-new-nist-password-guidelines/ = (for a more human readable version :) >=20 > Regards >=20 > Gavan Schneider Slightly off-topic, but I once ran into a system that would not allow = kk1bsk#$ as a password because it contained a dictionary word. Still wondering what dictionary they were using...