Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lezd7-0007Ac-Cz for pgsql-admin@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 07 May 2021 12:30:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lezd5-00015P-Uq for pgsql-admin@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 07 May 2021 12:30:51 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lezd5-00015G-MD for pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org; Fri, 07 May 2021 12:30:51 +0000 Received: from mailout.easymail.ca ([64.68.200.34]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lezd3-0006Ap-22 for pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org; Fri, 07 May 2021 12:30:50 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailout.easymail.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8420B22248; Fri, 7 May 2021 12:30:46 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at emo06-pco.easydns.vpn Received: from mailout.easymail.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (emo06-pco.easydns.vpn [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id c49uGNkElaPx; Fri, 7 May 2021 12:30:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpclient.apple (unknown [4.28.96.150]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailout.easymail.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E954520DDF; Fri, 7 May 2021 12:30:44 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.80.0.2.43\)) Subject: Re: Query on User account password change details From: Scott Ribe In-Reply-To: <4e87a433-531f-d108-4ef6-0c54ba44f587@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 7 May 2021 06:30:43 -0600 Cc: pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <90B6B3A1-BB95-4D69-99EF-D86C0A859431@jakobs.com> <4e87a433-531f-d108-4ef6-0c54ba44f587@gmail.com> To: Ron X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.80.0.2.43) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk > On May 6, 2021, at 11:40 PM, Ron wrote: >=20 > Comments like this are indicative of someone who's never been through = an external audit. While maybe true, the point stands that even the original source of the = requirement has admitted it's a bad idea, and standards bodies are = dropping it. So, unlike many other things we might consider pointless, = with this one, you have the kind of defense that might work in an audit.=