Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1uKwgV-00ExUy-ID for pgsql-admin@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 30 May 2025 10:09:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1uKwgU-00HXcE-9t for pgsql-admin@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 30 May 2025 10:09:54 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1uKwgT-00HXc6-VQ for pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org; Fri, 30 May 2025 10:09:53 +0000 Received: from lana.depesz.com ([88.198.49.178] helo=depesz.com) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1uKwgR-000gnk-2Z for pgsql-admin@postgresql.org; Fri, 30 May 2025 10:09:53 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=depesz.com; s=20170201; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version :References:Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:Sender:From:Date:Content-ID: Content-Description; bh=50iPH88uzYZHMfaINgh7Zdl5i4qgRHO7z177hxCdC1E=; b=InZIf +RBSqw46oSaQdfi1mHKvA46cIy/NMQl0qC7k6W/RqymwnM8ur4svp5iilBFgJeN7v7WEmBY70Igty qcNwMfazpuhBZTSM3ur10lFW0maw2jsEt9/7MSna2UuuwlVEhP8H+W0IrNWpaZyDNi8DlvNI50Pg+ B/8I8MMyjro0=; Received: from depesz by depesz.com with local (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1uKwgO-008I7d-38; Fri, 30 May 2025 12:09:49 +0200 Date: Fri, 30 May 2025 12:09:48 +0200 From: hubert depesz lubaczewski Sender: depesz@depesz.com To: Ron Johnson Cc: pgsql-admin Subject: Re: pg_dump verbose start and stop times? Message-ID: Reply-To: depesz@depesz.com References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 08:51:49PM -0400, Ron Johnson wrote: > The non-sense of putting start and stop times in the dump file while not > putting them in stderr must have caused my brain to skip over "to the dump > file". > > Honestly, who cares if start and stop times are in the dump file? stderr > is where a DBA wants to see timings. =$ date >&2; pg_dump …; date >&2 That's all you need. Whether pg_dump does what you want, or not, is not really important given how easy it is to fix the thing yourself. And the assumption that: "it doesn't do what *I* want, so it's non-sense", is slightly exaggerating commonality of your experience. Best regards, depesz