Received: from maia.hub.org (maia-3.hub.org [200.46.204.243]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01BC76323A7 for ; Fri, 14 May 2010 10:39:23 -0300 (ADT) Received: from mail.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.86]) by maia.hub.org (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.243]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 63201-10 for ; Fri, 14 May 2010 13:39:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CD246322DE for ; Fri, 14 May 2010 10:39:16 -0300 (ADT) Received: from maia.hub.org (maia-1.hub.org [200.46.208.211]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5810434559E8 for ; Fri, 14 May 2010 10:39:14 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by maia.hub.org (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.211]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01328-10; Fri, 14 May 2010 13:38:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id BAB0234559B2; Fri, 14 May 2010 10:39:06 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B97B03455995; Fri, 14 May 2010 10:39:06 -0300 (ADT) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 10:39:06 -0300 (ADT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Greg Stark cc: Greg Smith , Tom Lane , jd@commandprompt.com, Magnus Hagander , Robert Haas , Alvaro Herrera , Bruce Momjian , Simon Riggs , pgsql-hackers Subject: Re: List traffic In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <201005111350.o4BDo4x27597@momjian.us> <20506.1273785548@sss.pgh.pa.us> <1273790358.8624.3132.camel@jd-desktop.unknown.charter.com> <4913.1273790764@sss.pgh.pa.us> <4BECC5E5.1000901@2ndquadrant.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.91 tagged_above=-5 required=5 tests=BAYES_00=-1.9, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 201005/791 X-Sequence-Number: 162454 On Fri, 14 May 2010, Greg Stark wrote: > On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 4:39 AM, Greg Smith wrote: >> Is it >> helpful to novices that they can subscribe to a list when they won't be >> overwhelmed by traffic, and can ask questions without being too concerned >> about being harassed for being newbies?  Probably. > > Only if they aren't hoping to get answers... What percentage of the > hackers and experts who trawl -general for questions to answer are > subscribed to -novices? > > -general isn't subscriber-only posts is it? All our lists are, yes ... *but* ... the 'subscriber list' is cross list, in that if you are subscribed to one, you can post to all ... > If they're interested in performance topics and they're not subscribed > to -general then they're missing *most* of what they're interested in > which doesn't take place on -performance. And most of what's on > -performance ends up being non-performance related questions anyways. And IMHO, that is as much a fault of the 'old timers' on the lists as the newbies ... if nobody redirects / loosely enforces the mandates of the various lists, newbies aren't going to learn to post to more appropriate ones ... Personally, my experience with large lists is that if there is a smaller, more focused list, I'll post there first, to avoid being lost in the noise ... and, I will re-post to a more general list *if* and only if I'm unable to get an answer from where I posted my original ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. scrappy@hub.org http://www.hub.org Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:scrappy@hub.org