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* Binaries for EOL version?
@ 2023-10-19 15:41 Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  2023-10-19 15:57 ` RE: Binaries for EOL version? HALAT-PRUVOT SYLVIE <sylvie.halat-pruvot@region-academique-occitanie.fr>
  2023-10-19 16:22 ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Thomas Kellerer <shammat@gmx.net>
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread

From: Ron @ 2023-10-19 15:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-admin


I might need to install amcheck on a RHEL 6 server running Pg 9.6.24.  (Yes, 
I know... don't say it.)

However, I don't see anything older than 11 in https://yum.postgresql.org.  
Example:
https://yum.postgresql.org/11/redhat/rhel-6-x86_64/repoview/

Have the binaries been /deleted/ or are they in some publicly available, but 
not publicized, archive?

-- 
Born in Arizona, moved to Babylonia.

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* RE: Binaries for EOL version?
  2023-10-19 15:41 Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
@ 2023-10-19 15:57 ` HALAT-PRUVOT SYLVIE <sylvie.halat-pruvot@region-academique-occitanie.fr>
  2023-10-19 16:13   ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread

From: HALAT-PRUVOT SYLVIE @ 2023-10-19 15:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>; +Cc: pgsql-admin

Hi Ron,

Maybe you will find packages …

https://yum.postgresql.org/repopackages/#pgredhatoldrepos

S. Halat


De : Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
Envoyé : jeudi 19 octobre 2023 17:42
À : pgsql-admin <pgsql-admin@postgresql.org>
Objet : Binaries for EOL version?


I might need to install amcheck on a RHEL 6 server running Pg 9.6.24.  (Yes, I know... don't say it.)

However, I don't see anything older than 11 in https://yum.postgresql.org.  Example:
https://yum.postgresql.org/11/redhat/rhel-6-x86_64/repoview/

Have the binaries been deleted or are they in some publicly available, but not publicized, archive?
--
Born in Arizona, moved to Babylonia.


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* Re: Binaries for EOL version?
  2023-10-19 15:41 Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  2023-10-19 15:57 ` RE: Binaries for EOL version? HALAT-PRUVOT SYLVIE <sylvie.halat-pruvot@region-academique-occitanie.fr>
@ 2023-10-19 16:13   ` Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread

From: Ron @ 2023-10-19 16:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-admin

That /should/ be what I want (thank you!), but, for example, browsing to 
https://yum-archive.postgresql.org/9.6/redhat/rhel-6-x86_64 returns Access 
Denied.

<Error>
<Code>AccessDenied</Code>
<Message>Access Denied</Message>
<RequestId>DAVE3W4HG6Y2JBD2</RequestId>
<HostId>oEFzdpmkJwgR0JgTK9MMI29eWBHSw0mpTFlxDtdOUpJAxcVq3oRj0aXQFQoK9dhXU/ksMoxFwF0=</HostId>
</Error>


On 10/19/23 10:57, HALAT-PRUVOT SYLVIE wrote:
>
> Hi Ron,
>
> Maybe you will find packages …
>
> https://yum.postgresql.org/repopackages/#pgredhatoldrepos
>
> S. Halat
>
> *De :*Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
> *Envoyé :* jeudi 19 octobre 2023 17:42
> *À :* pgsql-admin <pgsql-admin@postgresql.org>
> *Objet :* Binaries for EOL version?
>
>
> I might need to install amcheck on a RHEL 6 server running Pg 9.6.24.  
> (Yes, I know... don't say it.)
>
> However, I don't see anything older than 11 in 
> https://yum.postgresql.org.  Example:
> https://yum.postgresql.org/11/redhat/rhel-6-x86_64/repoview/
>
> Have the binaries been /deleted/ or are they in some publicly available, 
> but not publicized, archive?
>
> -- 
> Born in Arizona, moved to Babylonia.
>

-- 
Born in Arizona, moved to Babylonia.

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* Re: Binaries for EOL version?
  2023-10-19 15:41 Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
@ 2023-10-19 16:22 ` Thomas Kellerer <shammat@gmx.net>
  2023-10-19 17:03   ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread

From: Thomas Kellerer @ 2023-10-19 16:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org

Ron schrieb am 19.10.2023 um 17:41:
>
> I might need to install amcheck on a RHEL 6 server running Pg 9.6.24.  (Yes, I know... don't say it.)
>
> However, I don't see anything older than 11 in https://yum.postgresql.org.  Example:
> https://yum.postgresql.org/11/redhat/rhel-6-x86_64/repoview/
>
> Have the binaries been /deleted/ or are they in some publicly available, but not publicized, archive?

EDB keeps binaries around

https://www.enterprisedb.com/download-postgresql-binaries







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* Re: Binaries for EOL version?
  2023-10-19 15:41 Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  2023-10-19 16:22 ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Thomas Kellerer <shammat@gmx.net>
@ 2023-10-19 17:03   ` Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  2023-10-19 17:30     ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread

From: Ron @ 2023-10-19 17:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org

On 10/19/23 11:22, Thomas Kellerer wrote:
> Ron schrieb am 19.10.2023 um 17:41:
>>
>> I might need to install amcheck on a RHEL 6 server running Pg 9.6.24.  
>> (Yes, I know... don't say it.)
>>
>> However, I don't see anything older than 11 in 
>> https://yum.postgresql.org.  Example:
>> https://yum.postgresql.org/11/redhat/rhel-6-x86_64/repoview/
>>
>> Have the binaries been /deleted/ or are they in some publicly available, 
>> but not publicized, archive?
>
> EDB keeps binaries around
>
> https://www.enterprisedb.com/download-postgresql-binaries

Thanks.  postgresql-9.6.24-1-linux-x64-binaries.tar.gz doesn't seem to have 
amcheck, though.

-- 
Born in Arizona, moved to Babylonia.





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* Re: Binaries for EOL version?
  2023-10-19 15:41 Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  2023-10-19 16:22 ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Thomas Kellerer <shammat@gmx.net>
  2023-10-19 17:03   ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
@ 2023-10-19 17:30     ` Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
  2023-10-19 17:54       ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread

From: Tom Lane @ 2023-10-19 17:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>; +Cc: pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org

Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com> writes:
> Thanks.  postgresql-9.6.24-1-linux-x64-binaries.tar.gz doesn't seem to have 
> amcheck, though.

amcheck was not part of the Postgres source tree until v10.
It might exist in some form for 9.6, but you'd have to look
outside the standard distribution channels - maybe github? -
and very likely compile from source.

			regards, tom lane





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* Re: Binaries for EOL version?
  2023-10-19 15:41 Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  2023-10-19 16:22 ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Thomas Kellerer <shammat@gmx.net>
  2023-10-19 17:03   ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  2023-10-19 17:30     ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
@ 2023-10-19 17:54       ` Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  2023-10-19 18:38         ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Evan Rempel <erempel@uvic.ca>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread

From: Ron @ 2023-10-19 17:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org

On 10/19/23 12:30, Tom Lane wrote:
[snip]
> amcheck was not part of the Postgres source tree until v10.
> It might exist in some form for 9.6, but you'd have to look
> outside the standard distribution channels

amcheck_next96 binary RPM were absolutely distributed by 
download.postgresql.org/pub/repos/yum/9.6/redhat/rhel-6.

I downloaded amcheck_next96-1.4.1 when I downloaded 9.6.22, but did not 
download amcheck_next96-1.4.5 with 9.6.24.

If push comes to shove, I can probably install the 1.4.1 RPM along side 9.6.24.

-- 
Born in Arizona, moved to Babylonia.

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* Re: Binaries for EOL version?
  2023-10-19 15:41 Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  2023-10-19 16:22 ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Thomas Kellerer <shammat@gmx.net>
  2023-10-19 17:03   ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  2023-10-19 17:30     ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
  2023-10-19 17:54       ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
@ 2023-10-19 18:38         ` Evan Rempel <erempel@uvic.ca>
  2023-10-19 19:06           ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread

From: Evan Rempel @ 2023-10-19 18:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org

The packages you need are definitely on the postgresql yum server. The 
repository can not be browsed, but if you add the yum repository 
definition file as documented at the bottom of the page
https://yum.postgresql.org/repopackages/#pgredhatoldrepos

you will be able to do a "yum install amcheck_next96" easily.

cat << EOF > /etc/yum.repos.d/pgdg-96.repo
[pgdg96]
name=PostgreSQL 9.6 RPMs for RHEL/CentOS 6
baseurl=https://yum-archive.postgresql.org/9.6/redhat/rhel-6-x86_64
enabled=1
gpgcheck=0
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-PGDG
EOF




On 2023-10-19 10:54, Ron wrote:
> Notice: This message was sent from outside the University of Victoria 
> email system. Please be cautious with links and sensitive information.
>
> On 10/19/23 12:30, Tom Lane wrote:
> [snip]
>> amcheck was not part of the Postgres source tree until v10.
>> It might exist in some form for 9.6, but you'd have to look
>> outside the standard distribution channels
>
> amcheck_next96 binary RPM were absolutely distributed by 
> download.postgresql.org/pub/repos/yum/9.6/redhat/rhel-6.
>
> I downloaded amcheck_next96-1.4.1 when I downloaded 9.6.22, but did 
> not download amcheck_next96-1.4.5 with 9.6.24.
>
> If push comes to shove, I can probably install the 1.4.1 RPM along 
> side 9.6.24.
>
> -- 
> Born in Arizona, moved to Babylonia.


-- 
Evan Rempel                                         250.721.7691
Senior Systems Administratorerempel@uvic.ca
Data Centre Services, University Systems, University of Victoria

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* Re: Binaries for EOL version?
  2023-10-19 15:41 Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  2023-10-19 16:22 ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Thomas Kellerer <shammat@gmx.net>
  2023-10-19 17:03   ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  2023-10-19 17:30     ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
  2023-10-19 17:54       ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  2023-10-19 18:38         ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Evan Rempel <erempel@uvic.ca>
@ 2023-10-19 19:06           ` Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  2023-10-19 19:44             ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Evan Rempel <erempel@uvic.ca>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread

From: Ron @ 2023-10-19 19:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org

Ah.  But I can't do that, since the server is behind many firewalls, and 
only has access to an internal RHEL mirror.

The "current" binaries are all accessible via web browser (and curl), so it 
puzzles me why yum-archive isn't.

I opened Redmine issue 7892 to make them available.

On 10/19/23 13:38, Evan Rempel wrote:
> The packages you need are definitely on the postgresql yum server. The 
> repository can not be browsed, but if you add the yum repository 
> definition file as documented at the bottom of the page
> https://yum.postgresql.org/repopackages/#pgredhatoldrepos
>
> you will be able to do a "yum install amcheck_next96" easily.
>
> cat << EOF > /etc/yum.repos.d/pgdg-96.repo
> [pgdg96]
> name=PostgreSQL 9.6 RPMs for RHEL/CentOS 6
> baseurl=https://yum-archive.postgresql.org/9.6/redhat/rhel-6-x86_64
> enabled=1
> gpgcheck=0
> gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-PGDG
> EOF
>
>
>
>
> On 2023-10-19 10:54, Ron wrote:
>> Notice: This message was sent from outside the University of Victoria 
>> email system. Please be cautious with links and sensitive information.
>>
>> On 10/19/23 12:30, Tom Lane wrote:
>> [snip]
>>> amcheck was not part of the Postgres source tree until v10.
>>> It might exist in some form for 9.6, but you'd have to look
>>> outside the standard distribution channels
>>
>> amcheck_next96 binary RPM were absolutely distributed by 
>> download.postgresql.org/pub/repos/yum/9.6/redhat/rhel-6.
>>
>> I downloaded amcheck_next96-1.4.1 when I downloaded 9.6.22, but did not 
>> download amcheck_next96-1.4.5 with 9.6.24.
>>
>> If push comes to shove, I can probably install the 1.4.1 RPM along side 
>> 9.6.24.
>>
>> -- 
>> Born in Arizona, moved to Babylonia.
>
>
> -- 
> Evan Rempel                                         250.721.7691
> Senior Systems Administratorerempel@uvic.ca
> Data Centre Services, University Systems, University of Victoria

-- 
Born in Arizona, moved to Babylonia.

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* Re: Binaries for EOL version?
  2023-10-19 15:41 Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  2023-10-19 16:22 ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Thomas Kellerer <shammat@gmx.net>
  2023-10-19 17:03   ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  2023-10-19 17:30     ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
  2023-10-19 17:54       ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  2023-10-19 18:38         ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Evan Rempel <erempel@uvic.ca>
  2023-10-19 19:06           ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
@ 2023-10-19 19:44             ` Evan Rempel <erempel@uvic.ca>
  2023-10-19 20:02               ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread

From: Evan Rempel @ 2023-10-19 19:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org

You can do that on any host and use the yum download only or if you want 
it all use reposync.
Then you can copy the actual RPMS anywhere you want.

Evan.

On 2023-10-19 12:06, Ron wrote:
>
> Ah.  But I can't do that, since the server is behind many firewalls, 
> and only has access to an internal RHEL mirror.
>
> The "current" binaries are all accessible via web browser (and curl), 
> so it puzzles me why yum-archive isn't.
>
> I opened Redmine issue 7892 to make them available.
>
> On 10/19/23 13:38, Evan Rempel wrote:
>> The packages you need are definitely on the postgresql yum server. 
>> The repository can not be browsed, but if you add the yum repository 
>> definition file as documented at the bottom of the page
>> https://yum.postgresql.org/repopackages/#pgredhatoldrepos
>>
>> you will be able to do a "yum install amcheck_next96" easily.
>>
>> cat << EOF > /etc/yum.repos.d/pgdg-96.repo
>> [pgdg96]
>> name=PostgreSQL 9.6 RPMs for RHEL/CentOS 6
>> baseurl=https://yum-archive.postgresql.org/9.6/redhat/rhel-6-x86_64
>> enabled=1
>> gpgcheck=0
>> gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-PGDG
>> EOF
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2023-10-19 10:54, Ron wrote:
>>>
>>> On 10/19/23 12:30, Tom Lane wrote:
>>> [snip]
>>>> amcheck was not part of the Postgres source tree until v10.
>>>> It might exist in some form for 9.6, but you'd have to look
>>>> outside the standard distribution channels
>>>
>>> amcheck_next96 binary RPM were absolutely distributed by 
>>> download.postgresql.org/pub/repos/yum/9.6/redhat/rhel-6.
>>>
>>> I downloaded amcheck_next96-1.4.1 when I downloaded 9.6.22, but did 
>>> not download amcheck_next96-1.4.5 with 9.6.24.
>>>
>>> If push comes to shove, I can probably install the 1.4.1 RPM along 
>>> side 9.6.24.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Born in Arizona, moved to Babylonia.

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* Re: Binaries for EOL version?
  2023-10-19 15:41 Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  2023-10-19 16:22 ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Thomas Kellerer <shammat@gmx.net>
  2023-10-19 17:03   ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  2023-10-19 17:30     ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
  2023-10-19 17:54       ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  2023-10-19 18:38         ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Evan Rempel <erempel@uvic.ca>
  2023-10-19 19:06           ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  2023-10-19 19:44             ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Evan Rempel <erempel@uvic.ca>
@ 2023-10-19 20:02               ` Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  2023-10-19 20:21                 ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Evan Rempel <erempel@uvic.ca>
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From: Ron @ 2023-10-19 20:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org

Even Ubuntu and Windows?

On 10/19/23 14:44, Evan Rempel wrote:
> You can do that on any host and use the yum download only or if you want 
> it all use reposync.
> Then you can copy the actual RPMS anywhere you want.
>
> Evan.
>
> On 2023-10-19 12:06, Ron wrote:
>>
>> Ah.  But I can't do that, since the server is behind many firewalls, and 
>> only has access to an internal RHEL mirror.
>>
>> The "current" binaries are all accessible via web browser (and curl), so 
>> it puzzles me why yum-archive isn't.
>>
>> I opened Redmine issue 7892 to make them available.
>>
>> On 10/19/23 13:38, Evan Rempel wrote:
>>> The packages you need are definitely on the postgresql yum server. The 
>>> repository can not be browsed, but if you add the yum repository 
>>> definition file as documented at the bottom of the page
>>> https://yum.postgresql.org/repopackages/#pgredhatoldrepos
>>>
>>> you will be able to do a "yum install amcheck_next96" easily.
>>>
>>> cat << EOF > /etc/yum.repos.d/pgdg-96.repo
>>> [pgdg96]
>>> name=PostgreSQL 9.6 RPMs for RHEL/CentOS 6
>>> baseurl=https://yum-archive.postgresql.org/9.6/redhat/rhel-6-x86_64
>>> enabled=1
>>> gpgcheck=0
>>> gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-PGDG
>>> EOF
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2023-10-19 10:54, Ron wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 10/19/23 12:30, Tom Lane wrote:
>>>> [snip]
>>>>> amcheck was not part of the Postgres source tree until v10.
>>>>> It might exist in some form for 9.6, but you'd have to look
>>>>> outside the standard distribution channels
>>>>
>>>> amcheck_next96 binary RPM were absolutely distributed by 
>>>> download.postgresql.org/pub/repos/yum/9.6/redhat/rhel-6.
>>>>
>>>> I downloaded amcheck_next96-1.4.1 when I downloaded 9.6.22, but did not 
>>>> download amcheck_next96-1.4.5 with 9.6.24.
>>>>
>>>> If push comes to shove, I can probably install the 1.4.1 RPM along side 
>>>> 9.6.24.
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Born in Arizona, moved to Babylonia.
>

-- 
Born in Arizona, moved to Babylonia.

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* Re: Binaries for EOL version?
  2023-10-19 15:41 Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  2023-10-19 16:22 ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Thomas Kellerer <shammat@gmx.net>
  2023-10-19 17:03   ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  2023-10-19 17:30     ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
  2023-10-19 17:54       ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  2023-10-19 18:38         ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Evan Rempel <erempel@uvic.ca>
  2023-10-19 19:06           ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  2023-10-19 19:44             ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Evan Rempel <erempel@uvic.ca>
  2023-10-19 20:02               ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
@ 2023-10-19 20:21                 ` Evan Rempel <erempel@uvic.ca>
  2023-10-19 21:05                   ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread

From: Evan Rempel @ 2023-10-19 20:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org

No. The original request was for the RPMs from a yum repository. You 
have to use a yum capable system.


On 2023-10-19 13:02, Ron wrote:
>
> Even Ubuntu and Windows?
>
> On 10/19/23 14:44, Evan Rempel wrote:
>> You can do that on any host and use the yum download only or if you 
>> want it all use reposync.
>> Then you can copy the actual RPMS anywhere you want.
>>
>> Evan.
>>
>> On 2023-10-19 12:06, Ron wrote:
>>>
>>> Ah.  But I can't do that, since the server is behind many firewalls, 
>>> and only has access to an internal RHEL mirror.
>>>
>>> The "current" binaries are all accessible via web browser (and 
>>> curl), so it puzzles me why yum-archive isn't.
>>>
>>> I opened Redmine issue 7892 to make them available.
>>>
>>> On 10/19/23 13:38, Evan Rempel wrote:
>>>> The packages you need are definitely on the postgresql yum server. 
>>>> The repository can not be browsed, but if you add the yum 
>>>> repository definition file as documented at the bottom of the page
>>>> https://yum.postgresql.org/repopackages/#pgredhatoldrepos
>>>>
>>>> you will be able to do a "yum install amcheck_next96" easily.
>>>>
>>>> cat << EOF > /etc/yum.repos.d/pgdg-96.repo
>>>> [pgdg96]
>>>> name=PostgreSQL 9.6 RPMs for RHEL/CentOS 6
>>>> baseurl=https://yum-archive.postgresql.org/9.6/redhat/rhel-6-x86_64
>>>> enabled=1
>>>> gpgcheck=0
>>>> gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-PGDG
>>>> EOF
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2023-10-19 10:54, Ron wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/19/23 12:30, Tom Lane wrote:
>>>>> [snip]
>>>>>> amcheck was not part of the Postgres source tree until v10.
>>>>>> It might exist in some form for 9.6, but you'd have to look
>>>>>> outside the standard distribution channels
>>>>>
>>>>> amcheck_next96 binary RPM were absolutely distributed by 
>>>>> download.postgresql.org/pub/repos/yum/9.6/redhat/rhel-6.
>>>>>
>>>>> I downloaded amcheck_next96-1.4.1 when I downloaded 9.6.22, but 
>>>>> did not download amcheck_next96-1.4.5 with 9.6.24.
>>>>>
>>>>> If push comes to shove, I can probably install the 1.4.1 RPM along 
>>>>> side 9.6.24.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Born in Arizona, moved to Babylonia.
>>
>
> -- 
> Born in Arizona, moved to Babylonia.

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* Re: Binaries for EOL version?
  2023-10-19 15:41 Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  2023-10-19 16:22 ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Thomas Kellerer <shammat@gmx.net>
  2023-10-19 17:03   ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  2023-10-19 17:30     ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
  2023-10-19 17:54       ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  2023-10-19 18:38         ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Evan Rempel <erempel@uvic.ca>
  2023-10-19 19:06           ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  2023-10-19 19:44             ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Evan Rempel <erempel@uvic.ca>
  2023-10-19 20:02               ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  2023-10-19 20:21                 ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Evan Rempel <erempel@uvic.ca>
@ 2023-10-19 21:05                   ` Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  2023-10-19 21:12                     ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Evan Rempel <erempel@uvic.ca>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread

From: Ron @ 2023-10-19 21:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org

A repository is a bunch of web pages.  I can curl every package under 
download.postgresql.org/pub, so why can't we curl every package under 
yum-archive.postgresql.org?

On 10/19/23 15:21, Evan Rempel wrote:
> No. The original request was for the RPMs from a yum repository. You have 
> to use a yum capable system.
>
>
> On 2023-10-19 13:02, Ron wrote:
>>
>> Even Ubuntu and Windows?
>>
>> On 10/19/23 14:44, Evan Rempel wrote:
>>> You can do that on any host and use the yum download only or if you want 
>>> it all use reposync.
>>> Then you can copy the actual RPMS anywhere you want.
>>>
>>> Evan.
>>>
>>> On 2023-10-19 12:06, Ron wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ah.  But I can't do that, since the server is behind many firewalls, 
>>>> and only has access to an internal RHEL mirror.
>>>>
>>>> The "current" binaries are all accessible via web browser (and curl), 
>>>> so it puzzles me why yum-archive isn't.
>>>>
>>>> I opened Redmine issue 7892 to make them available.
>>>>
>>>> On 10/19/23 13:38, Evan Rempel wrote:
>>>>> The packages you need are definitely on the postgresql yum server. The 
>>>>> repository can not be browsed, but if you add the yum repository 
>>>>> definition file as documented at the bottom of the page
>>>>> https://yum.postgresql.org/repopackages/#pgredhatoldrepos
>>>>>
>>>>> you will be able to do a "yum install amcheck_next96" easily.
>>>>>
>>>>> cat << EOF > /etc/yum.repos.d/pgdg-96.repo
>>>>> [pgdg96]
>>>>> name=PostgreSQL 9.6 RPMs for RHEL/CentOS 6
>>>>> baseurl=https://yum-archive.postgresql.org/9.6/redhat/rhel-6-x86_64
>>>>> enabled=1
>>>>> gpgcheck=0
>>>>> gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-PGDG
>>>>> EOF
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2023-10-19 10:54, Ron wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/19/23 12:30, Tom Lane wrote:
>>>>>> [snip]
>>>>>>> amcheck was not part of the Postgres source tree until v10.
>>>>>>> It might exist in some form for 9.6, but you'd have to look
>>>>>>> outside the standard distribution channels
>>>>>>
>>>>>> amcheck_next96 binary RPM were absolutely distributed by 
>>>>>> download.postgresql.org/pub/repos/yum/9.6/redhat/rhel-6.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I downloaded amcheck_next96-1.4.1 when I downloaded 9.6.22, but did 
>>>>>> not download amcheck_next96-1.4.5 with 9.6.24.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If push comes to shove, I can probably install the 1.4.1 RPM along 
>>>>>> side 9.6.24.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Born in Arizona, moved to Babylonia.
>>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Born in Arizona, moved to Babylonia.
>

-- 
Born in Arizona, moved to Babylonia.

^ permalink  raw  reply  [nested|flat] 15+ messages in thread

* Re: Binaries for EOL version?
  2023-10-19 15:41 Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  2023-10-19 16:22 ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Thomas Kellerer <shammat@gmx.net>
  2023-10-19 17:03   ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  2023-10-19 17:30     ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
  2023-10-19 17:54       ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  2023-10-19 18:38         ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Evan Rempel <erempel@uvic.ca>
  2023-10-19 19:06           ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  2023-10-19 19:44             ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Evan Rempel <erempel@uvic.ca>
  2023-10-19 20:02               ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  2023-10-19 20:21                 ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Evan Rempel <erempel@uvic.ca>
  2023-10-19 21:05                   ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
@ 2023-10-19 21:12                     ` Evan Rempel <erempel@uvic.ca>
  2023-10-20 02:58                       ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread

From: Evan Rempel @ 2023-10-19 21:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org

I'm not arguing if the yum-archive.postgresql.org should or should not 
permit browsing. I'm trying to give you a solution that you can 
implement today to acquire the packages that you need.

IMHO I applaud the fact that these packages are more difficult to get 
than the currently supported and tested versions. I can't see a reason 
why anyone would want to still be running them, but lets give credit 
where credit is due. The packages are still available even if I can't 
see a reason to run them.

Evan.

On 2023-10-19 14:05, Ron wrote:
>
> A repository is a bunch of web pages.  I can curl every package under 
> download.postgresql.org/pub, so why can't we curl every package under 
> yum-archive.postgresql.org?
>
> On 10/19/23 15:21, Evan Rempel wrote:
>> No. The original request was for the RPMs from a yum repository. You 
>> have to use a yum capable system.
>>
>>
>> On 2023-10-19 13:02, Ron wrote:
>>>
>>> Even Ubuntu and Windows?
>>>
>>> On 10/19/23 14:44, Evan Rempel wrote:
>>>> You can do that on any host and use the yum download only or if you 
>>>> want it all use reposync.
>>>> Then you can copy the actual RPMS anywhere you want.
>>>>
>>>> Evan.
>>>>
>>>> On 2023-10-19 12:06, Ron wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah.  But I can't do that, since the server is behind many 
>>>>> firewalls, and only has access to an internal RHEL mirror.
>>>>>
>>>>> The "current" binaries are all accessible via web browser (and 
>>>>> curl), so it puzzles me why yum-archive isn't.
>>>>>
>>>>> I opened Redmine issue 7892 to make them available.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/19/23 13:38, Evan Rempel wrote:
>>>>>> The packages you need are definitely on the postgresql yum 
>>>>>> server. The repository can not be browsed, but if you add the yum 
>>>>>> repository definition file as documented at the bottom of the page
>>>>>> https://yum.postgresql.org/repopackages/#pgredhatoldrepos
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you will be able to do a "yum install amcheck_next96" easily.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cat << EOF > /etc/yum.repos.d/pgdg-96.repo
>>>>>> [pgdg96]
>>>>>> name=PostgreSQL 9.6 RPMs for RHEL/CentOS 6
>>>>>> baseurl=https://yum-archive.postgresql.org/9.6/redhat/rhel-6-x86_64
>>>>>> enabled=1
>>>>>> gpgcheck=0
>>>>>> gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-PGDG
>>>>>> EOF
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2023-10-19 10:54, Ron wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/19/23 12:30, Tom Lane wrote:
>>>>>>> [snip]
>>>>>>>> amcheck was not part of the Postgres source tree until v10.
>>>>>>>> It might exist in some form for 9.6, but you'd have to look
>>>>>>>> outside the standard distribution channels
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> amcheck_next96 binary RPM were absolutely distributed by 
>>>>>>> download.postgresql.org/pub/repos/yum/9.6/redhat/rhel-6.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I downloaded amcheck_next96-1.4.1 when I downloaded 9.6.22, but 
>>>>>>> did not download amcheck_next96-1.4.5 with 9.6.24.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If push comes to shove, I can probably install the 1.4.1 RPM 
>>>>>>> along side 9.6.24.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> Born in Arizona, moved to Babylonia.
>>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Born in Arizona, moved to Babylonia.
>>
>
> -- 
> Born in Arizona, moved to Babylonia.

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* Re: Binaries for EOL version?
  2023-10-19 15:41 Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  2023-10-19 16:22 ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Thomas Kellerer <shammat@gmx.net>
  2023-10-19 17:03   ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  2023-10-19 17:30     ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
  2023-10-19 17:54       ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  2023-10-19 18:38         ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Evan Rempel <erempel@uvic.ca>
  2023-10-19 19:06           ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  2023-10-19 19:44             ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Evan Rempel <erempel@uvic.ca>
  2023-10-19 20:02               ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  2023-10-19 20:21                 ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Evan Rempel <erempel@uvic.ca>
  2023-10-19 21:05                   ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  2023-10-19 21:12                     ` Re: Binaries for EOL version? Evan Rempel <erempel@uvic.ca>
@ 2023-10-20 02:58                       ` Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread

From: Ron @ 2023-10-20 02:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org

On 10/19/23 16:12, Evan Rempel wrote:
> I'm not arguing if the yum-archive.postgresql.org should or should not 
> permit browsing. I'm trying to give you a solution that you can implement 
> today to acquire the packages that you need.

As if I haven't considered that (and instantly dismissed it, since Ubuntu 
and Windows).

>
> IMHO I applaud the fact that these packages are more difficult to get than 
> the currently supported and tested versions. I can't see a reason why 
> anyone would want to still be running them, but lets give credit where 
> credit is due. The packages are still available even if I can't see a 
> reason to run them.

If someone needs to install another package in an existing EOL system, 
they'd need to download that package from the archive.

>
> Evan.
>
> On 2023-10-19 14:05, Ron wrote:
>>
>> A repository is a bunch of web pages.  I can curl every package under 
>> download.postgresql.org/pub, so why can't we curl every package under 
>> yum-archive.postgresql.org?
>>
>> On 10/19/23 15:21, Evan Rempel wrote:
>>> No. The original request was for the RPMs from a yum repository. You 
>>> have to use a yum capable system.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2023-10-19 13:02, Ron wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Even Ubuntu and Windows?
>>>>
>>>> On 10/19/23 14:44, Evan Rempel wrote:
>>>>> You can do that on any host and use the yum download only or if you 
>>>>> want it all use reposync.
>>>>> Then you can copy the actual RPMS anywhere you want.
>>>>>
>>>>> Evan.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2023-10-19 12:06, Ron wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ah.  But I can't do that, since the server is behind many firewalls, 
>>>>>> and only has access to an internal RHEL mirror.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The "current" binaries are all accessible via web browser (and curl), 
>>>>>> so it puzzles me why yum-archive isn't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I opened Redmine issue 7892 to make them available.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/19/23 13:38, Evan Rempel wrote:
>>>>>>> The packages you need are definitely on the postgresql yum server. 
>>>>>>> The repository can not be browsed, but if you add the yum repository 
>>>>>>> definition file as documented at the bottom of the page
>>>>>>> https://yum.postgresql.org/repopackages/#pgredhatoldrepos
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you will be able to do a "yum install amcheck_next96" easily.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cat << EOF > /etc/yum.repos.d/pgdg-96.repo
>>>>>>> [pgdg96]
>>>>>>> name=PostgreSQL 9.6 RPMs for RHEL/CentOS 6
>>>>>>> baseurl=https://yum-archive.postgresql.org/9.6/redhat/rhel-6-x86_64
>>>>>>> enabled=1
>>>>>>> gpgcheck=0
>>>>>>> gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-PGDG
>>>>>>> EOF
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2023-10-19 10:54, Ron wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/19/23 12:30, Tom Lane wrote:
>>>>>>>> [snip]
>>>>>>>>> amcheck was not part of the Postgres source tree until v10.
>>>>>>>>> It might exist in some form for 9.6, but you'd have to look
>>>>>>>>> outside the standard distribution channels
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> amcheck_next96 binary RPM were absolutely distributed by 
>>>>>>>> download.postgresql.org/pub/repos/yum/9.6/redhat/rhel-6.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I downloaded amcheck_next96-1.4.1 when I downloaded 9.6.22, but did 
>>>>>>>> not download amcheck_next96-1.4.5 with 9.6.24.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If push comes to shove, I can probably install the 1.4.1 RPM along 
>>>>>>>> side 9.6.24.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>> Born in Arizona, moved to Babylonia.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Born in Arizona, moved to Babylonia.
>>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Born in Arizona, moved to Babylonia.
>

-- 
Born in Arizona, moved to Babylonia.

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