Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hF5C5-0001Rr-6T for pgsql-admin@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 23:02:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hF5C3-0006Zb-5Q for pgsql-admin@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 23:02:47 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hF5C2-0006OT-D5 for pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 23:02:46 +0000 Received: from mail-oi1-x241.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::241]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hF5Bv-0004Jb-HQ for pgsql-admin@postgresql.org; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 23:02:45 +0000 Received: by mail-oi1-x241.google.com with SMTP id i21so9296930oib.11 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 16:02:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-language; bh=OAfTjHKqyVE4cwQpYylkYewWvgQnlPs/WtPJv/G8wtE=; b=PkwyFEuXmfa5B+IsPCilQTPI6elxRw0+mxdcp25iNZrof0ZtbVpZyJ7ELxoUCw+XOo Hr7Ck6QQS/sRDh4JPDDvOCsbX7DaBX0Tlq1C+oRdIJ7Ex5gTQRs547QRygMHqcr1kccK TBu2XRgM3hU/cgDRye60OxUZOZRAxkkUibhgEzyZ6TK3kpsD5V0SAx4XqfDdSw9hLBl1 69Z5o+WZRKO4lQgaSpODJIhlTDRlZYLO1FC7fllqsCGsdAtLYGkBm+HCfwBjEJixQMzv DwWYh6eWcvKnRgg7GZXBI9fLEhn08iOF//sWjMFWZuOqSmVth7AvNtYJYhZ5TKe4I+eX m6eg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language; bh=OAfTjHKqyVE4cwQpYylkYewWvgQnlPs/WtPJv/G8wtE=; b=cZwQgozxaEF0T1jt0NCxgEz8MBbqM2XLJOxQZWmi2f62F27V/voYKjpqojhyHXZiPM j437S30JoElBZOnqmZnWiVYlPVniQdGXUqowzQsw1YRjUMzpC30Oftq/+U2jD5BoRAIh jIwIwYfn1JdY90zOc+m8tsB1Zqw/drPZUW8uDgaDNVaNKTFra4rr6txn/8m0ZrsxQ86X tAOO3xhCUgAs7GqHHhsMPSDDNnayUBXGFevowNafllR3iPdtHXzDq2JNTsoAlfaz+hZk ysDmW15ZaKYxZQ5gDH3DcQCDaHhQAUc7xUfSI1OKqQm6ueedXZ7eW2CLDxO/IGwC0yQI 5AWA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXXQALfveUo+YbhRljVCl+vVeFoDfxRvdtd+2RDmX9m8yIybp7t XGQxGXMUdR+ymjkMpmxm26g/9x6t6Zs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzfmACKm92+JIbNFfAqQ4spqttju6NoXSRkiDcMh9AyDu5LcOsBqUGJyxwOjeq+4kC1R4phXw== X-Received: by 2002:aca:fccd:: with SMTP id a196mr11102073oii.132.1555110158474; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 16:02:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (ip70-171-116-89.no.no.cox.net. [70.171.116.89]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id l49sm16637325otc.19.2019.04.12.16.02.36 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 12 Apr 2019 16:02:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: pg_dump using anything other than custom and directory To: pgsql-admin References: <93bf4376-6167-a89f-83c5-36aa0dadae2e@gmail.com> From: Ron Message-ID: Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 18:02:36 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------EC46A7D5F1511FE9CA82A51C" Content-Language: en-US List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------EC46A7D5F1511FE9CA82A51C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just hand-edited a .dat file from an -Fd backup. On 4/12/19 5:34 PM, Derek Viljoen wrote: > You can hand edit raw text. > > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 5:32 PM Ron > wrote: > > What makes -Ft and -Fp so much better than -Fc and -Fd at setting up > test environments? > > > On 4/12/19 3:50 PM, Derek Viljoen wrote: >> Setting up test environments. >> >> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 3:10 PM Ron > > wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> In 2019 using supported versions of PostgreSQL, what practical >> use is there >> to use the tar format, and -- other than migrating trivially >> sized databases >> to other RDBMSs -- the plain format? >> >> Thanks >> -- Angular momentum makes the world go 'round. --------------EC46A7D5F1511FE9CA82A51C Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I just hand-edited a .dat file from an -Fd backup.

On 4/12/19 5:34 PM, Derek Viljoen wrote:
You can hand edit raw text. 

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 5:32 PM Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com> wrote:
What makes -Ft and -Fp so much better than -Fc and -Fd at setting up test environments?


On 4/12/19 3:50 PM, Derek Viljoen wrote:
Setting up test environments. 

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 3:10 PM Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

In 2019 using supported versions of PostgreSQL, what practical use is there
to use the tar format, and -- other than migrating trivially sized databases
to other RDBMSs -- the plain format?

Thanks

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Angular momentum makes the world go 'round.
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