Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jfjka-0004GI-8I for pgsql-admin@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2020 12:41:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jfjkY-0008Em-OY for pgsql-admin@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2020 12:41:06 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jfjkY-0008Ef-H1 for pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2020 12:41:06 +0000 Received: from hermes.gatewaynet.com ([193.92.121.98]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jfjkR-00059T-P1 for pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2020 12:41:06 +0000 Received: from smadev.internal.net (pc131.internal.net [10.9.200.131]) by hermes.gatewaynet.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Debian-8) with ESMTPS id 051Ceq8N007395 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2020 15:40:57 +0300 Received: from smadev.internal.net (smadev [10.9.200.131]) by smadev.internal.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 051CepLs023274 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2020 15:40:52 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Subject: Re: pg_stat_database.xact_commit + pg_stat_database.xact_rollback as a reliable metric for xid consumption ? To: pgsql-admin@lists.postgresql.org References: <51fa222b-374e-39da-eb8c-66d667426bae@matrix.gatewaynet.com> <36dd7ae2-7c6f-86af-430b-dd9a0f7774b3@matrix.gatewaynet.com> From: Achilleas Mantzios Message-ID: Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 15:40:51 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.101.4 at hermes X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-36.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,DYN_HAM_COORD, DYN_HAM_IT,DYN_HAM_IT_PARTNERS,DYN_HAM_NAUTICAL,DYN_SPAM_SUBJ autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on hermes.gatewaynet.com List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk Hello Julien On 1/6/20 2:03 μ.μ., Julien Rouhaud wrote: > On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 12:48 PM Achilleas Mantzios > wrote: >> On 1/6/20 1:36 μ.μ., Julien Rouhaud wrote: >>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 12:02 PM Achilleas Mantzios >>> wrote: >>> Because read only transaction usually don't consume an xid. So yes >>> pg_stat_database gives a more reasonable approximation of the real >>> number of transactions happening on the server. >> Thank you, so what would be the official way to monitor txid consumption (from a MVCC / Freezing admin POV)? > I'm not sure what you're really looking for. I've been as explicit as it gets. When ppl talk about vacuum freeze what they have in mind is xmin's and xmax's and the rate that xids grow and consume the 2^31 address space, so I find it strange that such a basic metric is not included in the core statistics collector. That's all. > -- Achilleas Mantzios IT DEV Lead IT DEPT Dynacom Tankers Mgmt