Received: from maia.hub.org (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5AAA6327E6 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 11:17:13 -0300 (ADT) Received: from mail.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.86]) by maia.hub.org (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32112-06 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 14:17:02 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-pv0-f174.google.com (mail-pv0-f174.google.com [74.125.83.174]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E12E6322C9 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 11:17:02 -0300 (ADT) Received: by pva18 with SMTP id 18so1361086pva.19 for ; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 07:17:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:received:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=oSyYDLvJ/F2xEZdM9kj3VtS84mhSCbkRehWeiLoXy7Q=; b=dCmkz1t6ASVqS4UAOjEMrlUUwSL6v2BTR3/b8Q4FQ1lvZ5DEsh1OIRtkDZUOp0/Er2 YU1ZTd6GY0eNYhgXlk2pQITAooHYvAoTdPYlhhBfPt6QL1TIgPeRA4f2kUaa+ZKKB7RH eEor3IxzgJThvF4Wp3w3G9Tc7ezd3LUBOz0PE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=XH/4K7RvZ4ftfd4Zg3+I74Le9kBFPE+Fk1cZmdjh5aNgfL9NjfWgbmOccLRYTELsIU qKfBFZ6cR4a8CFsl9OAHP9zxmNEEoICDXjYVv3u8zIcMQYw2RNzSDp4oPO55uEw5rmez 908fqjA2RKjC5pfGo4csdmO7tEjLGCkG08Cu8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.128.3 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 07:16:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Greg Stark Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 15:16:41 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: fc0be2ba8b71b52a Received: by 10.141.188.27 with SMTP id q27mr267622rvp.73.1270736221120; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 07:17:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: PD_ALL_VISIBLE flag warning To: Jonathan Foy Cc: pgsql-admin@postgresql.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.599 tagged_above=-10 required=5 tests=BAYES_00=-2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 201004/85 X-Sequence-Number: 34179 On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Jonathan Foy wrote: > Thanks for the reply... > > We have an unhealthy habit of not updating very often around here, one th= at > I'm trying to fix. We run both 8.1 and 8.4, and we're testing the update = to > 8.1.20 this weekend....from 8.1.3.=A0 Across the board 8.4 update will ta= ke > much more testing due to the typing issue. Other 8.4 updates will take pl= ace > soon. If you're on 8.1 it's important to be on the latest 8.1 -- there are at least 17 significant bugs that warranted bug-fix releases between 8.1.3 and 8.1.20 including security bugs and data corruption bugs. > We never actually ran 8.4.0.=A0 We went straight from 8.3.3 to 8.4.1.=A0 = I did a > full dump/restore from the 8.3.3 database into the 8.4.1 database (using = the > 8.4 pg_dump), partitioning as I went. Ugh, then it sounds like there's a real as-yet unidentified problem. The other thing to check before panicking is, has this server ever run with fsync off and crashed (either kernel panic or power failure)? What does the storage system on this server look like? Are they IDE or SCSI drives? Is there an LVM layer involved? etc. --=20 greg