Received: from maia.hub.org (maia-3.hub.org [200.46.204.243]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FFA46332E7 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 16:35:17 -0300 (ADT) Received: from mail.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.86]) by maia.hub.org (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.243]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 88203-05 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 19:35:09 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-pv0-f174.google.com (mail-pv0-f174.google.com [74.125.83.174]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0E4D6329E5 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 16:35:09 -0300 (ADT) Received: by pvg7 with SMTP id 7so167045pvg.19 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 12:35:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=lVT02vU+jcnIgboNgQAlvgHN3/rU//fXB1zHyv6rGeo=; b=qt+RnWhm7gUg703bLxfn6pK1z82/dB7+N9NIRk2gCE+OR7CidJ/vBG7d3Jm/P3fFkf OBooyvipgiiO0bm79whI7EfehqxeJfkDcFQ3wLEIBlJPJtvWI7EGkC06LNVWmQBwkpV1 CLGzULZ5Acg+85czukxqEwvMlUgOZXMGYILJU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DuHryYFdadd3kzQdJyhNFg3y8IhAeadGrBs/17q5hbgYFY4PTRH5kYQJBDPxkkG4M0 Xs9GPfUiWHad7s8Dwo3J9gjTeQvkMHFa2YDXB9arMRljGkMrk9PGcK8yXSshrP17ks6t MkkxvJ0fk6Z6vXXCfnPAnR+5ATPh3j9uCGzMs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.247.18 with SMTP id u18mr27926rvh.36.1272569701329; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 12:35:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.52.15 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 12:35:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4BD8DCEA.2020003@2ndquadrant.com> <4BD9198E.904@2ndquadrant.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 12:35:01 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: more 10K disks or less 15K disks From: Anj Adu To: Scott Marlowe Cc: Greg Smith , pgsql-admin@postgresql.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.544 tagged_above=-10 required=5 tests=AWL=1.355, BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 201004/354 X-Sequence-Number: 34448 With the increase in the number of disks that we can afford to have in 1 box..we will definitely plan on having WAL on dedicated disks. Previously..we were stuck with the chassis limitation of 6 disks per box. On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Scott Marlowe w= rote: > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Anj Adu wrote: >> All the disks are usually laid out in a single RAID 10 stripe . There >> are no dedicated disks for the OS/WAL as storage is a premium > > You should at least investigate the performance difference of having a > separate volume for WAL files on your system. =A0 =A0Since WAL files are > mostly sequential, and db access is generally random, the WAL files > can run really quickly on a volume that does nothing else but handle > WAL writes sequentially. =A0Given the volume you're handling, I would > expect that storage is not any more important than performance. > > The fact that you're asking whether to go with 12 or 24 600G disks > shows that you're willing to give up a little storage for performance. > =A0I would bet that the 24 10k disks with one pair dedicated for OS / > pg_xlog would be noticeably faster than any single large volume config > you'd care to test, especially for lots of active connections. >