Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kmhxY-00017n-SA for pgsql-advocacy@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 18:43:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kmhx1-0002bn-CJ for pgsql-advocacy@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 18:43:03 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kmhx1-0002bf-5c for pgsql-advocacy@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 18:43:03 +0000 Received: from d.mail.sonic.net ([64.142.111.50]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kmhwx-0003mh-ME for pgsql-advocacy@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 18:43:02 +0000 Received: from [192.168.42.78] (142-254-54-219.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com [142.254.54.219]) (authenticated bits=0) by d.mail.sonic.net (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTPSA id 0B8Igrna013088 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NOT); Tue, 8 Dec 2020 10:42:53 -0800 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-32CC8892-A709-4DAE-B70B-B06FB85640C4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: PostgreSQL on K8 with Operator From: Elein In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 10:42:52 -0800 Cc: Valeria Kaplan , pgsql-advocacy@lists.postgresql.org Message-Id: <0B54D15E-98D5-4741-956C-9FC9FF0907F9@varlena.com> References: To: Katherine Mcmillan X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (18B92) X-Sonic-CAuth: UmFuZG9tSVbUrWVbfJ5zQBlFifqHDCiyQ7wTEXAvpSreXZcfdxl/aJvedcFAj5vb5C1NAIdbNxv4LQ2zxUDftl7ZJjlYeEQe X-Sonic-ID: C;hus7LoU56xGx3rSffAb4WQ== M;1PF4LoU56xGx3rSffAb4WQ== X-Spam-Flag: No X-Sonic-Spam-Details: 0.0/5.0 by cerberusd List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk --Apple-Mail-32CC8892-A709-4DAE-B70B-B06FB85640C4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just a quick point. It is up to the purchaser of services to vet the service= s for their needs.=20 One size does not fit all, especially in this open source community.=20 Disparaging 1-person business would lose great resources as well as steady i= ncome for talented people.=20 Elein Mustain elein@varlena.com 510-637-9106 > On Dec 8, 2020, at 9:19 AM, Katherine Mcmillan wrote= : >=20 > =EF=BB=BF > Hello, >=20 > Just a question related to the list at: https://www.postgresql.org/support= /professional_support/, is there any curation done for this listing? >=20 > I just wonder about a list that includes both well-established experts tha= t focus on PostgreSQL (ex. EDB, Crunchy Data, Data Egret, PostgreSQL Experts= , etc.) when companies with 1 employee and without a working website are als= o on that listing (ex. PostgreSQL International). Seems like there should be= some basic standards for being listed, for example: you are a registered bu= siness, you have more than one employee (ie. you haven't just created a name= for your one-person consultancy, there could be a separate listing for inde= pendent consultants), you have a working website and up-to-date contact info= rmation, you follow PostgreSQL community standards/OSS policies, etc. >=20 > There also seem to be a number of companies that would be difficult to cat= egorize as "PostgreSQL specialists" considering the breadth of their work an= d expertise, ex. Heroku, Savoir-Faire Linux, Web Global Net, Moki Systems, e= tc. yet they are on that list. This could be the start of a slippery slope.= >=20 > Personally, I would struggle to pick out a reputable company with real exp= ertise/focus on PostgreSQL from that listing at present, if I did not have a= ny other familiarity with the companies. >=20 > Sincerely, > Katie >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 5:19 AM Valeria Kaplan w= rote: >> Hi Sasi, >>=20 >> Thank you for reaching out. >>=20 >> You will need to either contact individual companies that provide Postgre= SQL services (you can google them or take a look here: https://www.postgresq= l.org/support/professional_support/) or you can also reach out to the commun= ity through Slack (postgresteam.slack.com) or Telegram (https://t.me/pg_sql)= channels where individual consultants might be able to help. >>=20 >> We can't recommend a specific operator or comment on their expertise.=20 >>=20 >> Kind regards, >> Valeria=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Valeria Kaplan >> PostgreSQL advocacy >>=20 >>=20 >>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 3:54 AM SASIKUMAR Devaraj = wrote: >>> Hi All >>>=20 >>> Greetings. >>>=20 >>> I am looking for advise of running Postgres in K8 along with Operator. W= hich Operator will be best for this solution? Is any company running the sim= ilar setup in Production? >>>=20 >>> Regards, >>> Sasi --Apple-Mail-32CC8892-A709-4DAE-B70B-B06FB85640C4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just a quick point. It is up to the purchas= er of services to vet the services for their needs. 
One size does n= ot fit all, especially in this open source community. 
Dispar= aging 1-person business would lose great resources as well as steady income f= or talented people. 

Elein Mustain
elei= n@varlena.com
510-637-9106

On Dec 8, 2020, at 9:19 AM, Katherine Mcmillan <kmcmi0= 46@uottawa.ca> wrote:

=EF=BB=BF
Hello,

Just a= question related to the list at: https://www.postgresql.org= /support/professional_support/, is there any curation done for this list= ing?

I just wonder about a list that includes both w= ell-established experts that focus on PostgreSQL (ex. EDB, Crunchy Data, Dat= a Egret, PostgreSQL Experts, etc.) when companies with 1 employee and withou= t a working website are also on that listing (ex. PostgreSQL International).= Seems like there should be some basic standards for being listed, for examp= le: you are a registered business, you have more than one employee (ie. you h= aven't just created a name for your one-person consultancy, there could be a= separate listing for independent consultants), you have a working website a= nd up-to-date contact information, you follow PostgreSQL community standards= /OSS policies, etc.

There also seem to be a number o= f companies that would be difficult to categorize as "PostgreSQL specialists= " considering the breadth of their work and expertise, ex. Heroku, Savoir-Fa= ire Linux, Web Global Net, Moki Systems, etc. yet they are on that list.&nbs= p; This could be the start of a slippery slope.

Personally, I would struggle to pick out a reputable company with real expe= rtise/focus on PostgreSQL from that listing at present, if I did not have an= y other familiarity with the companies.

Sincerely,<= /div>
Katie




<= /div>



On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 5:19 AM Valeria Kap= lan <kaplan= .valeria@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Sasi,

Thank you for reaching out.

You will need to eith= er contact individual companies that provide PostgreSQL services (you can go= ogle them or take a look here: https://www.postgresql.org/su= pport/professional_support/) or you can also reach out to the community t= hrough Slack (po= stgresteam.slack.com) or Telegram (https://t.me/pg_sql) channels where individual consultants m= ight be able to help.

We can't recommend a= specific operator or comment on their expertise. 

=
Kind regards,
Valeria 


Valeria Kaplan
PostgreSQL advocacy


= On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 3:54 AM SASIKUMAR Devaraj <sashikumard@yahoo.com> wrote:
=
Hi All

Greetings.

I am looking fo= r advise of running Postgres in K8 along with Operator.  Which Operator= will be best for this solution? Is any company running the similar setup in= Production?

Regards,
=
Sasi
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