Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hQEdx-0003wd-E6 for pgsql-advocacy@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 13 May 2019 17:21:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hQEdv-0003je-AU for pgsql-advocacy@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 13 May 2019 17:21:39 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hQEdv-0003jX-03 for pgsql-advocacy@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 13 May 2019 17:21:39 +0000 Received: from meldrar.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::31]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hQEds-0002rK-MK for pgsql-advocacy@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 13 May 2019 17:21:37 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=postgresql.org; s=20171124; h=Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Date: Message-ID:From:References:Cc:To:Subject:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=i3n8opFjRRtuUsUrnIjNxu/fpqkw3/FP/hhnvKW+/Ik=; b=irHccH3Ex0QQnBAWbWVDDb/ZmD kgW0np/HPa2YxAF4MjlizjnuJRJO8KVISvgO4qCvIrq40GmIvK6LQvSVQ4lQdQjLNEUrwpHoOAoTt wSB7oc5w0eslBJfVoBr/tjednPVMzDhmWO6CAni79frbKJzdXOapyPQYpAnbDkUFy/4wKYKIoosdu aav9ESjG8M6DDTRmfocqSrmItSHtGgVd5sqpTgUSt0t+yB6VpgRVKzEetO/v1ye2mJft6t13SlCgJ 8HwDqnWbBNgmNU5EOeMMK9CuqesGNs+73VyrwWP4N/sUzlzecFHloI/HNhqSVjbMvqHmXM5LVTPVj ZLq3Whag==; Received: from [63.118.15.50] (helo=Ph33r-Retina.local) by meldrar.postgresql.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hQEdp-0008Aw-2l; Mon, 13 May 2019 17:21:35 +0000 Subject: Re: PostgreSQL 12: Feature Highlights To: Andres Freund Cc: Peter Eisentraut , pgsql-advocacy@lists.postgresql.org References: <830415f7-78ec-ef7b-0f73-0e810ef87f91@postgresql.org> <20190513163741.2je5uwd5btt5smal@alap3.anarazel.de> From: "Jonathan S. 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Katz" To: Andres Freund Cc: Peter Eisentraut , pgsql-advocacy@lists.postgresql.org Message-ID: <1a142e5a-9527-7e65-8957-a54ebff11994@postgresql.org> Subject: Re: PostgreSQL 12: Feature Highlights References: <830415f7-78ec-ef7b-0f73-0e810ef87f91@postgresql.org> <20190513163741.2je5uwd5btt5smal@alap3.anarazel.de> In-Reply-To: <20190513163741.2je5uwd5btt5smal@alap3.anarazel.de> --hS8xf2kq4dtQYUGiBnH00gJL1Bc9IUGW3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 5/13/19 12:37 PM, Andres Freund wrote: > Hi, >=20 > On 2019-05-13 08:54:47 -0400, Jonathan S. Katz wrote: >> On 5/13/19 7:39 AM, Peter Eisentraut wrote: >>> On 2019-05-12 17:28, Jonathan S. Katz wrote: >>>> - Partition bounds now support expressions >>> >>> This is relatively trivial compared to the rest and probably doesn't >>> belong in a highlights list. >=20 > +1 >=20 >=20 >> Why? This is incredibly helpful from a development standpoint; it >> greatly expands the possibilities of the types of partition bounds tha= t >> can be utilized. >=20 > You can say that about a lot of features. But we've limited space in th= e > top items... It doesn't strike me as a enabling that many cases. I've been bit by it when trying to create some partitions on my own, but that's not a good enough reason when there are other things to highlight.= With grouping things together, it could be something that's mentioned in passing -- it's not a bullet point on its own for sure. However, if the feeling is to drop it completely, I can drop it completely -- I don't feel strongly enough to argue for it. 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