Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gn3Dy-0003pX-VU for pgsql-advocacy@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 25 Jan 2019 15:16:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gn3Dv-0005Pg-D5 for pgsql-advocacy@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 25 Jan 2019 15:16:51 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gn3Dv-0005Mj-0W for pgsql-advocacy@lists.postgresql.org; Fri, 25 Jan 2019 15:16:51 +0000 Received: from mail-qt1-x843.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::843]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gn3Dm-0004am-V8 for pgsql-advocacy@lists.postgresql.org; Fri, 25 Jan 2019 15:16:49 +0000 Received: by mail-qt1-x843.google.com with SMTP id k12so10999397qtf.7 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2019 07:16:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=2ndquadrant-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=58deHiZaoALrABivh9BtAf17RSv3OrLE3MhUHl37EFE=; b=WGj2rMnGijPVefVcjNvnseriLwcOn3CPuPMqXbeNS7Hl6RTpDXzLJj7WA/4eRkFS+E LiefqSY6iR7slUVVLGw9UuKIspFf7yyJcjFY9fR6XJcObFIRBvV3K/0ur+ofCm0bu4h1 +Q3amFq8z023be9jgctpBAZA9g+65w+NfTbi8+H6RJUXuugVYWU4GJ6RdP8PlC7fzVv5 mi2gwl3BPsQwOzwBU0OWVYLOvDF1rSN19Z+iGu4Biom9bX4QfXlg1MYMAupvWJkZxSbW fxAEDpFrwoWnW+EnFr3IY+E+uO7kl8mcXgesPBiN9d7MhNcPBEGsxGNqZbkuGpgqfeVk zKgg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mime-version :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=58deHiZaoALrABivh9BtAf17RSv3OrLE3MhUHl37EFE=; b=MgKKqmoHCcPeNIhs0HtPQ4AZaZjtxmHDGyL+iVJhQtxHiL572l21Tp9lO9jCQ0gO1i i4R7YKhzAjGckdlF6xNcFGCmMCjB5EqZTidSIRnX3MdieC3DVom5JiClLsVSs2GXufuS sYMyQdtS3bGIG4nK/M7EcccPTT7MWq9hOcp0EalsrL0PRxoARYenv+HRCUKw0M9OOO5X KQfj02TbOoQk76EzwSwcHU9gIV3XJl7yVxpOZ9Q80hBmPGOPqS7z7C/+6FKqUqLpd/6M y1C/5Ng17iiaN+CPApeJ8Q0wfjAOnyvXStNBH/NXn/CJC6FebFpHNMRa66ZhcI4sMNCB kgCw== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukdXabjSc9/CTve05YLAlUhUZMHvaBAojOE1A6lqFTQGgc1h33Sy K/nqu++dlc3WHUnxq6PyIMQRq5JLl34= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN4uUK0GSc3FUCGIn3sSooHNefWs/7Ea+xXCMgrSXHl5zi8JupP7ey/JVCDPAYW+umlxifZntw== X-Received: by 2002:ac8:3768:: with SMTP id p37mr11637271qtb.351.1548429400974; Fri, 25 Jan 2019 07:16:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from alvin.alvh.no-ip.org ([201.186.80.67]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c49sm95753814qtc.94.2019.01.25.07.16.40 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Fri, 25 Jan 2019 07:16:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by alvin.alvh.no-ip.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D7AF46D8; Fri, 25 Jan 2019 12:16:38 -0300 (-03) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 12:16:38 -0300 From: Alvaro Herrera To: Justin Clift Cc: "Tsunakawa, Takayuki" , "'pgsql-advocacy@lists.postgresql.org'" Subject: Re: Citus Data becomes Microsoft Message-ID: <201901251516.m76emdb6ek2p@alvherre.pgsql> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4a26f17cbed0756d5ec0069d189814f1@postgresql.org> User-Agent: NeoMutt/20180716-1013-2c1e88 List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk On 2019-Jan-25, Justin Clift wrote: > On 2019-01-25 15:14, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > > On 2019-Jan-25, Justin Clift wrote: > > > That is absolutely terrible news. :( > > > > > > Looks like they've taken a leaf from the Oracle playbook. :( :( :( > > > > Well, isn't this what everyone said about Microsoft buying GitHub? > > Yes. > > > However, nothing terrible seems to have happened to GitHub ... rather > > the opposite, I think. > > That's weird. They started introducing "Social Network" features last > week, regardless of said features have a negative effect on user focus > and attention to detail. :( Are you saying that Microsoft is out to destroy open source communities by way of adding features to github that would diminish their abilities to get things done? This doesn't sound like a realistic threat to me. I don't like "social networks" myself, but I can't blame MS for going that route. It's just what young people seem to ask for. Microsoft today doesn't seem Microsoft 20 years ago. > Also, the reason why I nuked every GitHub repo, gist, and useful star > I have. Not just needing to figure out an alternative OAuth provider, > before completely deleting the account. Right, and many migrated to gitlab and other providers; but it seems to me that Microsoft hasn't actually done any harm to those that stayed. -- Álvaro Herrera https://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services