Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hRRf2-0007N2-CR for pgsql-advocacy@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 17 May 2019 01:27:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hRRf0-00074L-UZ for pgsql-advocacy@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 17 May 2019 01:27:46 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hRRf0-00074D-Nc for pgsql-advocacy@lists.postgresql.org; Fri, 17 May 2019 01:27:46 +0000 Received: from momjian.us ([72.94.173.45]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hRRex-00061H-UM; Fri, 17 May 2019 01:27:46 +0000 Received: from bruce by momjian.us with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hRReu-00035i-NA; Thu, 16 May 2019 21:27:40 -0400 Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 21:27:40 -0400 From: Bruce Momjian To: Alvaro Herrera Cc: Amit Langote , David Rowley , "Jonathan S. Katz" , pgsql-advocacy@lists.postgresql.org Subject: Re: PostgreSQL 12: Feature Highlights Message-ID: <20190517012740.ntgy4pfgib63blds@momjian.us> References: <20190516182628.kbkiajfnlooocgyg@momjian.us> <20190516190806.GA14121@alvherre.pgsql> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190516190806.GA14121@alvherre.pgsql> User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170113 (1.7.2) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 03:08:06PM -0400, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > On 2019-May-16, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > I think the more specific we make the partition description, the more > > limited it will appear to be. I think almost all partition operations > > will appear to be faster with PG 12, even if users can't articulate > > exactly why. > > I don't understand why you want to make things such black boxes. It is > what it is, and some users (not all) will want to understand. People > who have already tested pg11 and found it insufficient may give pg12 a > second look if we tell them we have fixed the deficiencies they found. The release notes are written so it is clear to the average reader, and is as short as it can be while remaining clear. If there is some other criteria the community wants to use, I suggest you start a thread on the hackers list. -- Bruce Momjian http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com + As you are, so once was I. As I am, so you will be. + + Ancient Roman grave inscription +