Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kC2fC-0007uY-CD for pgsql-advocacy@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sat, 29 Aug 2020 15:21:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kC2fB-0002Kq-54 for pgsql-advocacy@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sat, 29 Aug 2020 15:21:05 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kC2fA-0002Kj-R4 for pgsql-advocacy@lists.postgresql.org; Sat, 29 Aug 2020 15:21:04 +0000 Received: from meldrar.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::31]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kC2f8-0005Kk-Hs for pgsql-advocacy@lists.postgresql.org; Sat, 29 Aug 2020 15:21:03 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=postgresql.org; s=20171124; h=Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Date: Message-ID:From:References:Cc:To:Subject:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=8haB4df8q4tn+ZtgDroW+yTaisc8qgpj7Rr9pZChp1E=; b=MtchWwS6b9KXJlHhkd+dKRXL8j hcekGnggeiO4kes4VanLbHCV1YbjIpCgPd1RsEcNW4++KAiJCEW+pyB16ckQmodPhG6SENKL3Mi/d 3Wi2p9RuJjhHupXE1c5zU1r2/9kwgCP/zCcToT/VZZf6iaDKlFFrXU9nVkZuNZX4bv4yWUKg+fSLj 8yBOGlAnqS2aU9+lRzAuGOm/tPPTeztDMndgkMiyViyJltNC6ABjXerpHIuvPxE8q7RtQtp5cALez 5uYBNlEsqDadt5l7qHSPeX/ap46aMQEH55sLYxwqaqAIj2zyz3E4WO5Kk4gIJdwTHXDhPVk+k/Hya HlAT4iVg==; Received: from pool-173-56-10-231.nycmny.fios.verizon.net ([173.56.10.231] helo=Ph33rHippo.home) by meldrar.postgresql.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kC2f4-0000TU-Qa; Sat, 29 Aug 2020 15:21:01 +0000 Subject: Re: PostgreSQL 13 press release draft To: Simon Riggs Cc: PostgreSQL Advocacy References: From: "Jonathan S. 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Katz" To: Simon Riggs Cc: PostgreSQL Advocacy Message-ID: <3ca94236-9407-b8e8-d632-6fcff1ab5ed8@postgresql.org> Subject: Re: PostgreSQL 13 press release draft References: In-Reply-To: --Z2Tuc2FRdS2H79pzs34KbZXeUQCwzpXix Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 8/17/20 3:31 PM, Simon Riggs wrote: > On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 at 17:07, Jonathan S. Katz w= rote: >=20 >> * The press kit has been slimmed down. This is due to an overall >> decrease in actual traffic to the press release through the years, >> though downloads themselves have gone up after the release! This likel= y >> due to fragmentation of how people consume PostgreSQL news, as today t= he >> release serves more as a "hey the new PostgreSQL software is available= !" >=20 > It's also because this information is no longer available after > release, we just show them directly to the more detailed release > notes. Well, the numbers are much lower even when it is "news" -- that's the period I typically measure. >=20 > That's a shame because there is lots of good work in the release announ= cement. Before I helped to write these, I used to refer to them a lot to actually understand what was in a release :) To your point, perhaps we can make it a bit more visible / accessible on the website. The presskits themselves are a bit buried after the release[1] but perhaps we can rearrange some things to make them more visible for longer. It still does not resolve the first problem I mention (traffic to press release down even as news...though will still take the "downloads up" overall problem. So long as we spread awareness!)= Jonathan [1] https://www.postgresql.org/about/press/ --Z2Tuc2FRdS2H79pzs34KbZXeUQCwzpXix-- --FWspehTLloBWBA6IfcmHVBXlJz449e2Xe Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEE+oS2la8r95ogZD/x8QSccp8cZScFAl9KclkACgkQ8QSccp8c ZSd45g/9Fwl2k9NX9mIiqXWqLbnCV1FfC1IDDNlskKhMKGMl8GlHueAVrrrn0w+n bYmLldfpZRLgDr2oFUJbz+QJE6FHOdXjhAsFBap+fZHxwWLTuGVlrhN5QqetD+VX SnXV6OLy7T54MZAVvDl3dPxC6qibwlWXW3lrtwb6nObJW5xER0CGxYe9aSgRQxtR zNvu8WG4V7alU4DNlLlsMrGGYnm9EMKl6czwxABYl6Lh1Zsh3fQDWc2u4dALvMTt wkM9obvI0PrRL7FTLSi9uPRCxgO2GD+OPIoxhv5BvqzylXEREenau6meAjjspNhv 4yLgB32SoMKuF2N8H8zDvZzjT2MAUxaeYCg2iuXFQGs6RdLUPwDbvWMVyVWIq/fD YojujLF18OqG+0npiMPSactx+BLESYBw+2V1qDVft5pVjaWzfNsv2eN37ahOcv3N VvgwGGtH9ythjjaZG69qaDiXsAef9HxiFjUOeR3KINFLRAtJUwB52bCZnJ9OP3Df cqd817C2GLkTmKXUbLZgvs9pg/+nQ7dmEHUqq3vSqYzyNXD99F38M8Bk4MsAiWTe GdeRTpPbNbNdEFT2Sd2gRf07HdU3iGLNzdWjNfILeOVsvYFbLc3O6wd04VlgJ4kl 5txs6d+eJIIDOQuCPJQy45NzctwWcIpVUKi9E3T/Ab0e8EmVgas= =bHLz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FWspehTLloBWBA6IfcmHVBXlJz449e2Xe--