Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1q72Hh-0006tc-NW for pgsql-advocacy@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 07 Jun 2023 23:09:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1q72Hg-0007jP-Hz for pgsql-advocacy@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 07 Jun 2023 23:09:44 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1q72Hf-0007Zs-K9 for pgsql-advocacy@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 07 Jun 2023 23:09:44 +0000 Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1q72Hc-000n4C-Kw for pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org; Wed, 07 Jun 2023 23:09:42 +0000 Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B975C0159; Wed, 7 Jun 2023 19:09:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 07 Jun 2023 19:09:39 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=aklaver.com; h= cc:cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:content-type:date :date:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :references:reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to; s=fm3; t= 1686179379; x=1686265779; bh=e+fCK9yXEOniMUQndXiFHHnTCcY6G/z5gyO AibJx5Vo=; b=KQTFHeZ8JGx2GcIiEma2saue14EHqfTRhJs5pObL2IfdZQklEDR SM7KzlKC2AzWiJNaGakv8uL1yO/ChiZWqy9ZX2o+ZRr9vJEaweMcn2BzdiGP/KrK 1jFBhxMKNDdxbw4jez4E4/rz//AY7Nda9/eZ8t49bEEVJfJ6O/N+C8YSkio8ejU6 vgH3ytaJEWKZTZbBwvFgAEFVQsDwjRRynsfwZf5xZVi7c75cC7kU9gsPt8PacRG9 EsbPoE0G/wGg0CJlob03KVp8pyuwqPoPgYOhRFb4fwdILPM7pQxpJb+QRbcnIp61 Fj058GatXYZuvudtKtu8SGE/GlFVqiZ93ww== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:content-type:date:date:feedback-id:feedback-id :from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :references:reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; t= 1686179379; x=1686265779; bh=e+fCK9yXEOniMUQndXiFHHnTCcY6G/z5gyO AibJx5Vo=; b=ShqR2JhgiYWzhEDsVi7OJIpvChbL74MhXYlPTZd7Lrb7D371tTq yce/lh454xKUqQsDfbOlEEG9hqDQYI/StZjF+rpVqxiZb1uRnAiwlsBtwSaFzQ+h vMQD0d/z2tqUIBut5JzcAqKg6F5TECxN4XkMvtm1W3iru5HjDC/PxvvMLpjGZjop GrqGF9mlUvnv3q+7/kB3x5Heim5XwVfWbnFm2k/LpBDlCmp/PbDJkTJOpAQOJC5F hcCdxWJi6sogC8HHlJ0H+JQeSN0XdpwYOi1Hzm2pWp/jS4yciXJw/d1lqKY1seVH 1RGRk/o0iX4KpdlutKoxNrLkJSLqnXFQzug== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvhedrgedthedgudekucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhepkfffgggfuffvvehfhfgjtgfgsehtkeertddtfeejnecuhfhrohhmpeetughr ihgrnhcumfhlrghvvghruceorggurhhirghnrdhklhgrvhgvrhesrghklhgrvhgvrhdrtg homheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhephedugfethfettdehieevteeukedtjedvhfevkefg udefgeevteduvdeuvdeggeegnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpe hmrghilhhfrhhomheprggurhhirghnrdhklhgrvhgvrhesrghklhgrvhgvrhdrtghomh X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i76984098:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Wed, 7 Jun 2023 19:09:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <420735c2-f718-17fe-6f0c-96f969a20bcb@aklaver.com> Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2023 16:09:36 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.11.2 Subject: Re: RFC: a new try for an official community approved certification To: Jaime Casanova , Tatsuo Ishii Cc: pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org, kaplan.valeria@gmail.com, davecramer@postgres.rocks, gunnar.bluth@pro-open.de, kmcmi046@uottawa.ca, guillaume@lelarge.info, chris@1006.org References: <20230606.103516.395571408093366645.t-ishii@sranhm.sra.co.jp> Content-Language: en-US From: Adrian Klaver In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On 6/7/23 13:48, Jaime Casanova wrote: > On Mon, Jun 5, 2023 at 8:35 PM Tatsuo Ishii wrote: >> > ANother question was about who oversees the process, probably about > the organization of all this. That is the main question. Without an organization in place the rest of it is wasted effort. > > Basically what we need is some guidance about all of it ;) > Who is we? -- Adrian Klaver adrian.klaver@aklaver.com