Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hRLu2-0007PG-6j for pgsql-advocacy@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 16 May 2019 19:18:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hRLu0-0005YA-CU for pgsql-advocacy@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 16 May 2019 19:18:52 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hRLu0-0005QC-0p for pgsql-advocacy@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 16 May 2019 19:18:52 +0000 Received: from mail-qk1-x742.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::742]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hRLtx-00062K-Fw for pgsql-advocacy@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 16 May 2019 19:18:51 +0000 Received: by mail-qk1-x742.google.com with SMTP id c15so3025030qkl.2 for ; Thu, 16 May 2019 12:18:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:subject:to:cc:references:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=DLHyC7EIYuk75tzL+XigALiaLLs8Yhlx4oVzHi4X/Ps=; b=vFFrK2tZjotGaljYFQgZZFpk82+evQY6M/tTMaZzEGp1PACa98KlcQGiMOABK9uEXt +7tKdDXImsZKkKk1HQ3Ieu1jKMFx6DOFHrSQzVmanO7jomndt+EWnvY88zCMToa9mbFd +kVBLehNYhGhOlk89WutL1fk0oE4h00C55zynzwPpYC/pGHQb+gUHw1qR1DEcXSprxaG /QiplSyeAdiDmpI2cRVZzc2b0NI+EliCEbUdFopGwjBblCpCzjrTTAvp7aMIFqBtdj8n CgJ75UB1883G8VUQGcj+hSQ3djqBJWz/thFWe1Ex+Bn4P98EX2C/nwK3CS1EHNlFomXf hbyA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:subject:to:cc:references:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=DLHyC7EIYuk75tzL+XigALiaLLs8Yhlx4oVzHi4X/Ps=; b=LH90OziPewHTRJ8LCG/ACvipZJh1XiSlB9uLvvnWKEmlivXUkv6DishXNxdaToJE6v o12H10+K6XaY7ULxOR0LoZaYwvoxabv8iRNd3n4aTGbnVGH9/M5KUtyWeN5IMNy2rJXO gv2yx08Br1JMZeJHpBWcPnudpsPIYAdF+MU+l9eHThVnulOl9JRcQroLZMtPX9azW+3d CY+/XxmZ3ztx2bfqcEIGy9E7pyaCc4YvlR6buH9saMEoEg6C71czcT0SXF32dQjNxoWC Yr7wvVbXz3Lmuzs4rtjffd6hwUCPXEWRnczAbnHZR7TsrHiTEqi2YVvQLxaZRV8kniPb uKOw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWtdL9x4aTIowol5SuBsV3JSPjc8ImzWVouuhLqfH8CBL1p6Tgd pWPOfxcSzbe/y+zvBEvNHbyraZrfDjAuLQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzMCfVPGumhC/QxaZnPedSRc59FoP2oSCC77uZns2IcjtOY0ro+NjdiYt1djxz+d5NefZ5Ivg== X-Received: by 2002:a37:6445:: with SMTP id y66mr41959423qkb.102.1558034327278; Thu, 16 May 2019 12:18:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.151.217] ([190.111.231.16]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k53sm3204311qtb.65.2019.05.16.12.18.45 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 16 May 2019 12:18:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Amell X-Google-Original-From: Stephen Amell Subject: Re: PostgreSQL 12: Feature Highlights To: Alvaro Herrera , Bruce Momjian Cc: Amit Langote , David Rowley , "Jonathan S. Katz" , pgsql-advocacy@lists.postgresql.org References: <20190516190806.GA14121@alvherre.pgsql> Message-ID: <5e28ae21-34df-eb6b-b02f-e5e3bdaf3df5@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 16:18:42 -0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20190516190806.GA14121@alvherre.pgsql> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: es-AR List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk On 2019-05-16 16:08, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > On 2019-May-16, Bruce Momjian wrote: > >> I think the more specific we make the partition description, the more >> limited it will appear to be. I think almost all partition operations >> will appear to be faster with PG 12, even if users can't articulate >> exactly why. > I don't understand why you want to make things such black boxes. It is > what it is, and some users (not all) will want to understand. People > who have already tested pg11 and found it insufficient may give pg12 a > second look if we tell them we have fixed the deficiencies they found. yep, I agree with Alvaro, I'm one of these users...