Subject: Re: community social media
To: Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>,
 ourdiaspora <ourdiaspora@protonmail.com>
Cc: "David G. Johnston" <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>,
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From: "Jonathan S. Katz" <jkatz@postgresql.org>
To: Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>,
 ourdiaspora <ourdiaspora@protonmail.com>
Cc: "David G. Johnston" <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>,
 "pgsql-advocacy@lists.postgresql.org" <pgsql-advocacy@lists.postgresql.org>
Message-ID: <6f3bf3d7-57a1-5780-0d75-81f746848e3e@postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: community social media
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On 9/26/20 4:59 PM, Adrian Klaver wrote:
> On 9/26/20 12:50 PM, ourdiaspora wrote:
>>
>> =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 Origin=
al Message =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=

>> On Saturday, September 26, 2020 8:17 PM, Adrian Klaver
>> <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/26/20 11:05 AM, ourdiaspora wrote:
>>>
>>>> =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 Orig=
inal Message =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=
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>>>> On Saturday, September 26, 2020 5:04 PM, David G. Johnston
>>>> david.g.johnston@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:11 AM ourdiaspora
>>>>> ourdiaspora@protonmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Mail list readers,
>>>>>> Firstly, within the mailing list web pages, references to
>>>>>> "blacklist"???
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe provide a link to where and a suggested alternative wording.
>>>>
>>>> See title 'Manage email addresses' after sign-in to your postgresql
>>>> web site account
>>>> "allowed", "dis-allowed" could suffice
>>>
>>> Still not sure what the issue is.
>>>
>>
>> https://toot.thoughtworks.com/@judeswae/104571211206394579
>>
>> Ignorance is bliss..
>=20
> I would say ignorance is taking a word(black) and appropriating it for =
a
> cause, wherever it appears, when said word has more them one meaning.

As Magnus said[1] a bit earlier, there's already an in-progress item to
implement language updates on pglister, but it's not a trivial change.

Now that we're passed the PostgreSQL 13 release (which for who track
things with the pgweb ecosystem, *a lot* of changes were added to help
support the release ;) my guess is this will be handled in the
not-too-distant future.

Suffice to say, this is being addressed.

Thanks,

Jonathan

[1]
https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/CABUevEyS0_xFc-7ZaWKR%3Dd5h-HfvGEt%=
2BPhEP2Dpp5H7sTxY6Ug%40mail.gmail.com


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