Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1q7H7M-0001za-Ki for pgsql-advocacy@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 08 Jun 2023 15:00:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1q7H7L-0003Fu-HG for pgsql-advocacy@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 08 Jun 2023 15:00:03 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1q7H7K-0003FT-7s for pgsql-advocacy@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 08 Jun 2023 15:00:03 +0000 Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1q7H7H-000uZs-D9 for pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org; Thu, 08 Jun 2023 15:00:01 +0000 Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72EBB5C01E5; Thu, 8 Jun 2023 10:59:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 08 Jun 2023 10:59:58 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=aklaver.com; h= cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:content-type:date:date :from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :references:reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to; s=fm3; t= 1686236398; x=1686322798; bh=Sk1q88POTDywF03NPf6YZ8gica4KZLIWHGs qdvQeMsE=; b=fF9kv4D/UYlJi/MIz+ruK11qN7bfD7QQgJyeOlTBuT9vtntSYJ/ GfFY8wg+p6CxET0RI9U7a4OKSaGoWgNEkk4qEVB8EfXoNQVJgTmhsLEZ0RjTKAyD FAw+yUsJKDkDI8te8UY9LnZoDL/+kKMQnENFn5XWy1kmnWPV2YnqNfpps5JRo+Nj +D2GGajvCwJ0g6VB6El6ZaCrUZ1NfJ4th1l8y8CoTBmFOhosVK+ArzidMThDR/gT Pwcm+/P+Y5hMqzEj930sBJ/YKN2tZIuwYEoqUoZBSfS3u6NSY0lp9UipPw8Rahc2 iyHx4Xj/fkqgoZ7eMfreoAmhHbpHSxkRTRA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :content-type:date:date:feedback-id:feedback-id:from:from :in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy :x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; t=1686236398; x= 1686322798; bh=Sk1q88POTDywF03NPf6YZ8gica4KZLIWHGsqdvQeMsE=; b=S q2xXgXK19Y4teuGLIfFskp5aphJmEuaZXoq6tfJElYXXXLd2OGRYSTM/UxcNhwHi YJHlz6brg2ZCGRLA/8HcCULy4ibAsbgI/9os2MRPZLpoHVkSMEkAHVQWl2bP50QO HYJlCT85kGJinqQZ76SsrVHMLAwVMgEOLGEglzqbQczftzJNjtvIzn1F8+lLFo3x 1TuGwj4g39oipwGP97yIcaZa1VfWCccuV+WCqFngtH9A3seOUQUi8G12lhH0W+sg 9zH7iM7eCyNIZfgPa0STCr4pABB3NornuLL87dilngInKHnENjx6PbPzd2iHJ0JD 4e0d7uP6V+cXF1+dALprQ== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvhedrgedtiedgkeefucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhepkfffgggfuffvfhfhjggtgfesthejredttdefjeenucfhrhhomheptegurhhi rghnucfmlhgrvhgvrhcuoegrughrihgrnhdrkhhlrghvvghrsegrkhhlrghvvghrrdgtoh hmqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeevvdekiefhudfhhfdtkeelgeffudeigfetjeegfffg hfetfeelledugfelleegveenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmh grihhlfhhrohhmpegrughrihgrnhdrkhhlrghvvghrsegrkhhlrghvvghrrdgtohhm X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i76984098:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Thu, 8 Jun 2023 10:59:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <78a77f72-aca0-d65f-c3ed-619292fd894b@aklaver.com> Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2023 07:59:57 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.11.2 Subject: Re: RFC: a new try for an official community approved certification To: Robert Bernier , pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org References: <20230606.103516.395571408093366645.t-ishii@sranhm.sra.co.jp> <420735c2-f718-17fe-6f0c-96f969a20bcb@aklaver.com> <964325640.821476.1686230765866@connect.xfinity.com> Content-Language: en-US From: Adrian Klaver In-Reply-To: <964325640.821476.1686230765866@connect.xfinity.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On 6/8/23 06:26, Robert Bernier wrote: > Guys, > > I still have bad memories when we tried this the last time some 15 years ago. > > Let's do this in small steps: > - Create a mail list just for this thread > - Instead of creating an approved certification how's about developing an RFC of sorts outlining expected competencies for various classifications of knowledge (that should be real fun) is expected to carry out certain tasks. Then, after there's some sort of agreement in the community. +1 > > Hope this helps. > > Robert Bernier > robert.bernier@percona.com > > -- Adrian Klaver adrian.klaver@aklaver.com