Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1q7Feg-0006gZ-1V for pgsql-advocacy@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 08 Jun 2023 13:26:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1q7Fee-0003u0-U0 for pgsql-advocacy@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 08 Jun 2023 13:26:20 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1q7Fee-0003rs-4g for pgsql-advocacy@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 08 Jun 2023 13:26:20 +0000 Received: from resdmta-a1p-077741.sys.comcast.net ([2001:558:fd01:2bb4::e]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1q7FeZ-0011nK-Ec for pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org; Thu, 08 Jun 2023 13:26:19 +0000 Received: from resomta-a1p-077252.sys.comcast.net ([96.103.145.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 256/256 bits) (Client did not present a certificate) by resdmta-a1p-077741.sys.comcast.net with ESMTP id 7EWNqhBjYMKqI7FeRq8r30; Thu, 08 Jun 2023 13:26:07 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=20190202a; t=1686230767; bh=Ys8kv/dgqnSlW8WS8ItHfimIg/9gxR0jZh5zlHggBR0=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Xfinity-Spam-Result; b=0+3ryDaZpGQj4MB/MgoChnLrhyKMAX3KDXAcK0ElihsOM3ieMrxXPHVWHroQt34vk phbdiOqoW5WS24dmqXCLtRITk6BFFxzr9ZXxsXhMp1CcCV/Wpi8HFd5OWwi2+Kz9At nkQNZLvbwrL3hz+D4gZoI+dWg00UBuESk3Ama/XhW0hV3dB3L9lclFGboML3vVYTnI 3q4jIdtG/756uG3fLvw92IauX8jxEnMFcjvtmcyNP+mnHs7MLLRVw/bvvAhGLVfZ92 ijR3XNmYfOchIUTyC24X7hBoi/fInAB3qXX27HwrPzkXSubZ/FpebLbXhrze3IXKIY AlZEvX3NksB9A== Received: from oxapp-hob-45o.email.comcast.net ([96.118.26.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 256/256 bits) (Client did not present a certificate) by resomta-a1p-077252.sys.comcast.net with ESMTPS id 7FePqSx78tTgy7FeQqRPkO; Thu, 08 Jun 2023 13:26:07 +0000 X-Xfinity-VAAS: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvhedrgedtiedgieegucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuvehomhgtrghsthdqtfgvshhipdfqfgfvpdfpqffurfetoffkrfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedtudenucenucfjughrpeffhffvkfgjfhfugggtgffrkgfoihesthejsgdtredtjeenucfhrhhomheptfhosggvrhhtuceuvghrnhhivghruceorhhosggvrhhtjeefledtsegtohhmtggrshhtrdhnvghtqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpefgudeileeikeejudeuueeufeekkeeuvdettdfhteetveffkeevvdeuieefveegjeenucfkphepleeirdduudekrddviedrudejpddviedtjeemfhgsledumeduhegrvgemhegslegvmegvtddtsgemgegtieehmegvvdhfgeemfeekughfnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehhvghlohepohigrghpphdqhhhosgdqgeehohdrvghmrghilhdrtghomhgtrghsthdrnhgvthdpihhnvghtpeeliedruddukedrvdeirddujedpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehrohgsvghrthejfeeltdestghomhgtrghsthdrnhgvthdpnhgspghrtghpthhtohepuddprhgtphhtthhopehpghhsqhhlqdgrughvohgtrggthiesphhoshhtghhrvghsqhhlrdhorhhg X-Xfinity-VMeta: sc=0.00;st=legit Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2023 06:26:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Bernier To: pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org Message-ID: <964325640.821476.1686230765866@connect.xfinity.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20230606.103516.395571408093366645.t-ishii@sranhm.sra.co.jp> <420735c2-f718-17fe-6f0c-96f969a20bcb@aklaver.com> Subject: Re: RFC: a new try for an official community approved certification MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Open-Xchange Mailer v7.10.6-Rev39 X-Originating-IP: 2607:fb91:15ae:5b9e:e00b:4c65:e2f4:38df X-Originating-Client: open-xchange-appsuite List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk Guys, I still have bad memories when we tried this the last time some 15 years ago. Let's do this in small steps: - Create a mail list just for this thread - Instead of creating an approved certification how's about developing an RFC of sorts outlining expected competencies for various classifications of knowledge (that should be real fun) is expected to carry out certain tasks. Then, after there's some sort of agreement in the community. Hope this helps. Robert Bernier robert.bernier@percona.com